Feeding With Fresh Garlic??????
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loopy101
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i dont know if i am right by doing what i do so i hope some one with more knowledge answers you question so i can learn as well!!
its hard to find fresh seafood around here... but i followed other recipes from other threads on the forums.. and blend it all up and i do take a clove of garllic and through that in the blender as well. i have heard of some people using other vegatables in there recipes but i prefer to keep it mainly with seafood shrimp.clams. ect... i dont make big batches but i take some eggcrate that i have mounted on a piece of arcrylic(or small ice cube trey would work to) freeze it and then pop them out and put them in a zip lock baggy.... then all ya have to do is take a little ice cube of smelly stuff out and thaw it and its good to feed once it warms up! i feed my corals with it and the fish luv the stuff as well...
its hard to find fresh seafood around here... but i followed other recipes from other threads on the forums.. and blend it all up and i do take a clove of garllic and through that in the blender as well. i have heard of some people using other vegatables in there recipes but i prefer to keep it mainly with seafood shrimp.clams. ect... i dont make big batches but i take some eggcrate that i have mounted on a piece of arcrylic(or small ice cube trey would work to) freeze it and then pop them out and put them in a zip lock baggy.... then all ya have to do is take a little ice cube of smelly stuff out and thaw it and its good to feed once it warms up! i feed my corals with it and the fish luv the stuff as well...
al mc
Active Member
A little garlic in the tank should not hurt but it is the garlic 'juice' that is reported (debateable) to help with the immune system and/or act as an appetite stimulant. The Allicin (reported active ingredient) comes from crushing the garlic cells and it released in the 'juice'. It degrades quickly..minutes to an hour or so...That is why you need to use fresh squeezed garlic with each meal if you are to maximize the benefits of the Allicin.
Bottle garlic has lost this ingredient as will freezing it along with food.
I see no harm in using it frozen or from a bottle, but the effectiveness of it
is very questionable.
Just my humble opinion.
Bottle garlic has lost this ingredient as will freezing it along with food.
I see no harm in using it frozen or from a bottle, but the effectiveness of it
is very questionable.
Just my humble opinion.
aztec reef
Active Member
Debateable is right! Garlic plant is scientifically known as Allium satiwum.
Allicium is the active ingredient in garlic extract chemically known as dially1 thiosulfiate or dially1 disulfhide-oxide. this active ingredient is unstable and prone to collapse in a short time..
That makes u re-think how effective the bottled & processed garlic could really be??
To my knowledge there hasn't been solid proof that garlic increases immune system or serve as appetite stimulant..whatsoever.
I know there has been studies but the variables are immense, as it all depends on fishes's natural immunity,antigen effect, or reaction to the novel & unnatural pungent substance.
so in short: use the clove's juices instead of the bottled ones.. yields will be the same or better(depending on personal perspective). It might just mean that they get attracted to the pungentness of garlic-glazed food instead of pepper or onion or any other vegetables..
Allicium is the active ingredient in garlic extract chemically known as dially1 thiosulfiate or dially1 disulfhide-oxide. this active ingredient is unstable and prone to collapse in a short time..
That makes u re-think how effective the bottled & processed garlic could really be??
To my knowledge there hasn't been solid proof that garlic increases immune system or serve as appetite stimulant..whatsoever.
I know there has been studies but the variables are immense, as it all depends on fishes's natural immunity,antigen effect, or reaction to the novel & unnatural pungent substance.
so in short: use the clove's juices instead of the bottled ones.. yields will be the same or better(depending on personal perspective). It might just mean that they get attracted to the pungentness of garlic-glazed food instead of pepper or onion or any other vegetables..
al mc
Active Member
Originally Posted by ajroc31
http:///forum/post/2694981
I read an article from this site, it was actually a research paper, few years back, and there is nothing to support that garlic has a positive effect on the fish, if anything I am pretty sure it suggested that it might cause damage to the digestive system.
I would like to read this reference if you have it. Everything I have read indicates that it is questionable about how many positives effects that garlic may have but no reference I am aware of indicates it is harmful.
http:///forum/post/2694981
I read an article from this site, it was actually a research paper, few years back, and there is nothing to support that garlic has a positive effect on the fish, if anything I am pretty sure it suggested that it might cause damage to the digestive system.
I would like to read this reference if you have it. Everything I have read indicates that it is questionable about how many positives effects that garlic may have but no reference I am aware of indicates it is harmful.
aztec reef
Active Member
Originally Posted by Al Mc
http:///forum/post/2695037
I would like to read this reference if you have it. Everything I have read indicates that it is questionable about how many positives effects that garlic may have but no reference I am aware of indicates it is harmful.
well theres is the risk of Halitosis
http:///forum/post/2695037
I would like to read this reference if you have it. Everything I have read indicates that it is questionable about how many positives effects that garlic may have but no reference I am aware of indicates it is harmful.
well theres is the risk of Halitosis
aztec reef
Active Member
Originally Posted by ajroc31
http:///forum/post/2694981
there is nothing to support that garlic has a positive effect on the fish, if anything I am pretty sure it suggested that it might cause damage to the digestive system.
You may just have a point here..
Everything we know about garlic is been almost the same since ancient egypcians walked the earth.. It has a powerfull essence of medicinal pourpuses, of which have been practiced on humans..it has been noted to be usufull against many deseases/sicknesses on the human species (nothing to do with tropical fish)..unless humans really evolved from fish.
Cons of garlic are:
Known adverse effects of garlic include halitosis (non-bacterial), indigestion, nausea, emesis and diarrhea.
Garlic may interact with warfarin, antiplatelets, saquinavir, antihypertensives, Calcium channel blockers, hypoglycemic drugs, as well as other medications. C
Garlic can thin the blood similar to the effect of aspirin.
Two outbreaks of botulism have been caused by consuming commercially produced garlic-in-oil preparations that were not properly preserved. such as including sufficient salt or acidity and keeping the mixture refrigerated. It is recommended to not keep home-preparations for more than a week. Possible side effects include gastrointestinal discomfort, sweating, dizziness, allergic reactions..
Some degree of liver toxicity has been demonstrated in rats, particularly in large quantities..
Garlic and onions may be toxic to cats and dogs.. why???
As some of u may know garlic is part of the onion family..and they're both allium plants not to mention .chives!!
Also Garlic has been used throughout the ages to ward off disease, and has saved many lives in epidemics of infectious diseases. It is antibacterial and gives protection against colds and flu. Garlic improves circulation and lowers blood pressure. In clinical studies, garlic reduced cholesterol levels. Further studies indicate that garlic may have a positive role in the prevention of coronary heart disease, thrombosis and arteriosclerosis. It may even offer some degree of protection against cancer. allergy, angina, asthma, bronchitis, burns and sunburn, cancer, cancer prevention, colds and flu, dermatitis, diabetes, earache, fungal infections, heart disease, herpes and cold sores, high blood pressure, HIV, leukemia and lymphoma, mastalgia (
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pain), sinusitis, ulcers, vaginitis, and yeast infections. (none of which sound like fish desease)
Hippocrates described it as a treatment for uterine tumors.
Birch bark manuscript called garlic a panacae, a remedy of all deseases..and so on, it goes all the way to the ancient egyptcians. Every civilization from china to africa valued the essence of its powers...
even in blibical times as noted in numbers 11:
4 "The rabble with them began to crave other food, and again the Israelites started wailing and said, "If only we had meat to eat! 5 We remember the fish we ate in Egypt at no cost—also the cucumbers, melons, leeks, onions and garlic. 6 But now we have lost our appetite; we never see anything but this manna!"
If garlic is used to repel insects in plants and farms and has millions of antibacterial properties, why would I want to use such a toxic substance t in a complex biomassive ecosystem like a reef?????
In nature the garlic plant uses sulfur as a defense mechanism against predators like bugs,insects deers, groundhogs,monkeys, even Batman!
sulfur protects the garlic plant from invading fungi and bacteria (below ground level)as well as larger foes such as worms, nematodes, and other parasites. Above ground, garlic's strong flavor also protects it from animals that would eat its leaves.
blue oasis
Member
I have been making my own food for the last 4 years which usually consists of:
Mussels
Clams
Uncooked shrimp
A little salmon
Bay or Ocean Scallops
Seaweed
1tsp of Kent Garlic
1/2 tsp of water
I add everything into a mini food processor and leave it a little on the chunky side for the fish and some coral. I then add the mixture into an ice cube trays and stick it in the freezer for 1 day, take it out and cut it into 1/4 and place them in a zip lock bag.
Mussels
Clams
Uncooked shrimp
A little salmon
Bay or Ocean Scallops
Seaweed
1tsp of Kent Garlic
1/2 tsp of water
I add everything into a mini food processor and leave it a little on the chunky side for the fish and some coral. I then add the mixture into an ice cube trays and stick it in the freezer for 1 day, take it out and cut it into 1/4 and place them in a zip lock bag.
keebler
Member
Garlic isn't necessary to add. From what I have learned garlic doesn't aid the immune system but it does help in other ways. Remember watching old vampire movies as a kid? Garlic was what they used to keep the vampires away. Well there is some truth to the practice. A long time ago we figured out that if you eat a lot of garlic vampire bats stay away from you. This is the same for most blood sucking parasites. If I am going on a campout where the leeched, ticks, or mosquitos are bad, I will eat some garlic before I go. They stay away. Garlic is commonly used in fish medications to help them stay parasite-free. Of course, I could be wrong, it has happened before.