nano reefer
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my beautiful tru perc is swimming around upside down and breathing fast and had red markings all over him. nitrates 20 in a 14 g nano. The other one has white poop. Ways wrong?
Fish going crazy! Dying!
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nano reefer
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please help! he keeps twitching and looks like he is drifting around. help!
nano reefer
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okay, if any of this helps, or if i should change anything, let me know and tell me how.
14g biocube, running poly pads, lr rubble, and phosguard for filtration. 9 lbs LR, 10 lbs LS, 4 ricordeas, 4 small zoo colonies, yellow polyp colony, frogspawn, hammer coral, gorgonian, acans, yasha goby, 2 clowns, peppermint shrimp, skunk shrimp, pistol shrimp, 3 red leg hermits, 1 turbo snail, 12-24 nass snails. Using hydor rotating deflector. temp is 78. Tank has been set up since september. Weekly 1 gal water changes, bi weekly filtration maitneance, monthly hardware maintenance. corals doing fine, inverts doing fine, skunk shrimp just molted today, one clown and goby ate food.
Tests: Nitrate 50 (high but i dont think lethal) phosphate .75 (again, high but not lethal).
14g biocube, running poly pads, lr rubble, and phosguard for filtration. 9 lbs LR, 10 lbs LS, 4 ricordeas, 4 small zoo colonies, yellow polyp colony, frogspawn, hammer coral, gorgonian, acans, yasha goby, 2 clowns, peppermint shrimp, skunk shrimp, pistol shrimp, 3 red leg hermits, 1 turbo snail, 12-24 nass snails. Using hydor rotating deflector. temp is 78. Tank has been set up since september. Weekly 1 gal water changes, bi weekly filtration maitneance, monthly hardware maintenance. corals doing fine, inverts doing fine, skunk shrimp just molted today, one clown and goby ate food.
Tests: Nitrate 50 (high but i dont think lethal) phosphate .75 (again, high but not lethal).
reef_dart21
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your nitrate is high but your right its not lethal but cuases stress on your fish and making them more vunerable to infection,illnesses and etc.
yosemite sam
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When did you add the fish?
nano reefer
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water change? anything?
nano reefer
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I did a 30% change last week. I mag floated the glass last week and yesterday (almost every day) cleaned out the hydor flow deflector under hot water to get algae off. thats about it.
aquaknight
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Did you stir the sand bed up at all? Not even enough to cause the water to get murky, but just some?
Seemed like nitrates are on the rise (20 first post to 50 in post #3), have you tested since?. What's ammonia at?
Seemed like nitrates are on the rise (20 first post to 50 in post #3), have you tested since?. What's ammonia at?
nano reefer
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last week they were 20, so i retested and got 50 just half an hour ago. The other day i pulled out my rock looking for my pistol shrimp (who i believe died, but goby is still in hole) which stirred the sand a bit, but it has been stirred more than that before. I also siphoned the top of the sand bed last week before i moved the rock to get off some algae. If stirring the sand was the problem, then wouldnt all 3 of my fish be going crazy?
aquaknight
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Possibly, if you did release a gas pocket and the clown was the only one to swim through it, maybe (this seems like some oddball longshoot).
I would say your phosphate levels are above 'just high' and into the dangerous level. Do you run carbon? (If) when was the last time you changed it out?
IMO, do at least 50% water changes (be sure to match pH/temp/salinity), test for ammonia, get rid of any carbon, and stop scrubbing for algae for a bit. A missing shrimp in a 14gal (probably 10 or so of actual water) might be enough to spike the ammonia (the nassarius should have made short work of him though).
I would say your phosphate levels are above 'just high' and into the dangerous level. Do you run carbon? (If) when was the last time you changed it out?
IMO, do at least 50% water changes (be sure to match pH/temp/salinity), test for ammonia, get rid of any carbon, and stop scrubbing for algae for a bit. A missing shrimp in a 14gal (probably 10 or so of actual water) might be enough to spike the ammonia (the nassarius should have made short work of him though).
nano reefer
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ok I did a 30 percent today. Should I go up to 50 percent tmrw or wait?
aquaknight
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Sure, it's not going to hurt anything...
sepulatian
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Originally Posted by Nano Reefer
my beautiful tru perc is swimming around upside down and breathing fast and had red markings all over him. nitrates 20 in a 14 g nano. The other one has white poop. Ways wrong?
White poop and red markings are signs of bacterial infections. Bacteria, the infectious kind, are always in the water. It takes a lowered immune system for them to infect the fish. The lowered immune system could have happened when you disrupted the tank. If it isn't bad and they are still eating, then keep them in the tank and slowly get the nitrates down. Don't do huge changes in a tank that small. Do frequent, smaller, changes. Do you have a qt? If the symptoms get worse then they will need medication in a seperate tank.
my beautiful tru perc is swimming around upside down and breathing fast and had red markings all over him. nitrates 20 in a 14 g nano. The other one has white poop. Ways wrong?
White poop and red markings are signs of bacterial infections. Bacteria, the infectious kind, are always in the water. It takes a lowered immune system for them to infect the fish. The lowered immune system could have happened when you disrupted the tank. If it isn't bad and they are still eating, then keep them in the tank and slowly get the nitrates down. Don't do huge changes in a tank that small. Do frequent, smaller, changes. Do you have a qt? If the symptoms get worse then they will need medication in a seperate tank.
nano reefer
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nnly the near dead clown won't eat. I don't have a QT set up now. I would need to get a new heater...
sepulatian
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Originally Posted by Nano Reefer
nnly the near dead clown won't eat. I don't have a QT set up now. I would need to get a new heater...
How "near dead" is he? Which one is that? The one with the red or the white poo? I don't know what to tell you if the cost of a heater is in the way of you treating your fish. Bacterial infections need to be treated with medication which you cannot add to the display. I am not trying to be rude at all. You can treat the fish or let nature take it's course
nnly the near dead clown won't eat. I don't have a QT set up now. I would need to get a new heater...
How "near dead" is he? Which one is that? The one with the red or the white poo? I don't know what to tell you if the cost of a heater is in the way of you treating your fish. Bacterial infections need to be treated with medication which you cannot add to the display. I am not trying to be rude at all. You can treat the fish or let nature take it's course
nano reefer
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He died. White poop is doing fine.