Floodproofing a sump?

lilmojo79

Member
How do flood proof a sump? I know that you can place a hole in the siphon hose from your overflow but where? Also if your power goes out and then comes back on will the overflow regain the suction/siphon? I am confused HELP! :confused:
 

broomer5

Active Member
Not sure is you totally 100% flood proof anything, let alone a sump, but you CAN take several precautions to reduce the risk.
1) You drill a small hole in the return line to the tank, not the overflow. Just below the surface of the water when at it's normal running level, where your spraybar or return shoots water out into the tank. On power lose-pump failure as the water begins to siphon back to the sump, as soon as this hole is exposed to air - the siphon will suck air and break siphon.
2) Insure that your overflow is rated to handle the flow of your pump at the given head pressure.
3) Clean any prefilter sponges that you may have on your overflow-bulkhead fitting. Excess waste and debris can build up reducing flow, and your overflow/tank can overflow.
4) Maintain proper level of water in sump. Do not exceed the amount of water that will drain back to the sump upon loss of power or pump failure.
5) Dramatically over size your sump - this is about the best way to insure no problems.
If your tank drains down 5 gallons of water on power loss, don't have a 10 gallon sump.
You'd be asking for troubles if you do.
6) Occassionally cut the power to your sump pump and see what happens.
7) Mark you sump with some sort of markings like colored tape - to indicate to others where your normal water level for top off should be. If you are gone, and someone is watching your tank - this is a big help.
Or get an auto top off system.
8) Can't think of anything else right now.
HTH
Broomer
 

daluminum

Member
I have a PVC return outlet going about 1/2 into my water.. .it stays under a "syphon" until the water level drops 1/2" then the syphon is broken and it wont put any more water into the tank.
 
1)two overflows in case one gets clogged
2)turn off system and see how much it can hold without overflowing. and determine your fill line.
3)check and maintain pumps, hoses, filters.
jsut take precautions and you shouldnt have any problems...
 

orby

Member
you can also place a water alarm near the area your not comfortable with and it will alert you to any water on the floor right away. They are available at HD and are under $20. It has saved me several times in the past.
 

q

Member
Using this formula LxWxH /231 (displacement of water in gallons from inches)I make sure that my tank can not flow in too much water and that my sump pump can not over fill the tank. I attached some pcv pipe to the return pump to that it would be at the correct heigth.
That and everything else listed. I don't think an alarm is necissary if you do everything else IMO.
 

lilmojo79

Member
Thanks everyone, these are great ideas and suggestions. Thanks SWF for providing such a valuable resource. :D
 

lilmojo79

Member
What exactly is a check valve? What I think it is, is a valve that controls flow one way or the other(lets water go to the tank but stops the water from returning to the sump). Is this correct?
 

q

Member
correct
They are still not fool proof. If you do the above it won't matter.
 

m1rodrig

Member
I am trying to build a sump and was wondering how to get the water back to the main tank do I use a pump? and how do I get the water to feed the sump?
 

fishforme

Member
You are correct, the check valve still isn't foolproof, but it is just another redundancy that has to fail in order to have a bathtub for a living room...
 

txreefer

Member
I have heard of people putting their sump into a rubbermaid container to help if it overflows. I think I will do this when I put in my new sump. Just adding a shallow one (4-6 inches deep) will hold quite a bit of water.
 
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