Frangible Ammo

yearofthenick

yearofthenick

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Guys, I've been doing research for a better part of the night, and in every situation where I find a description of Frangible Ammo, they say that the bullets will disintegrate if they hit anything harder than the bullet. Well that's nice, except I don't know how hard the friggin bullet is in the first place.
So I'm hoping someone will know the answer to this question....
If you want to use a handgun for home use but you don't want the bullets to travel to your neighbors house, how effective is frangible ammo in meeting that goal? Will the bullets still travel through walls?
I have a feeling sheetrock is not harder than a frangible bullet. I have a feeling that wood is not harder either (Especially since one website said the frangible ammo will go through bone, which is comparable in density to wood). Would it just be better to get hollow point bullets and take the risk of it hitting your neighbor?
I know some of you live in houses spread miles apart from each other... but I'm sitting in my living room, probably 20 feet from my neighbors house. It's tight here in CA.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
 
bionicarm

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by YearOfTheNick
http:///forum/post/3235255
Guys, I've been doing research for a better part of the night, and in every situation where I find a description of Frangible Ammo, they say that the bullets will disintegrate if they hit anything harder than the bullet. Well that's nice, except I don't know how hard the friggin bullet is in the first place.
So I'm hoping someone will know the answer to this question....
If you want to use a handgun for home use but you don't want the bullets to travel to your neighbors house, how effective is frangible ammo in meeting that goal? Will the bullets still travel through walls?
I have a feeling sheetrock is not harder than a frangible bullet. I have a feeling that wood is not harder either (Especially since one website said the frangible ammo will go through bone, which is comparable in density to wood). Would it just be better to get hollow point bullets and take the risk of it hitting your neighbor?
I know some of you live in houses spread miles apart from each other... but I'm sitting in my living room, probably 20 feet from my neighbors house. It's tight here in CA.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Didn't you only buy a shotgun? Unless you're putting 1/0 buckshot in that thing, no shotgun pellets that I'm aware of could penetrate an exteriror wall. Also, what type of material is your exterior wall made of - wood, brick, vinyl siding? I know there have been studies performed to answer this very question. Here's a couple:
http://docs.google.com/View?id=ddnc5pv_15dmp8dwd7
http://www.ncjrs.gov/App/publication...aspx?id=175969
It would also depend how far away you were from the exterior wall before the bullet penetrated it. Needless to say, there are several factors to be considered. Not to mention, unless your neighbor is standing outside of their home when you shot your weapon, it would also have to travel through their exterior wall as well to hit them. I don't even think a 30/06 hunting rifle would have the velocity to penetrate two walls.
Sounds to me you need to contact the MythBusters on the Discovery Channel! I wouldn't doubt they've already done this test.
 
reefraff

reefraff

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I wouldn't depend on the bullet not going from room to room but in most cases it would come apart going through siding.
If you get an auto for the first round or two in the clip use rat shot. You hit someone at ten feet or so with that it will get their attention really fast. Hit them in the chest odds are they take the dirt nap but if you miss anything going through an ******** wall probably wouldn't do anything more than put an eye out.
 
yearofthenick

yearofthenick

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I've checked online and it looks like the shotshell is borderline useless for home defense. Apparently it's great at taking out rattlesnakes and the like, but taking down an intruder isn't likely.
Should I just go with a lower grain JHP?
 
bionicarm

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by YearOfTheNick
http:///forum/post/3235856
I've checked online and it looks like the shotshell is borderline useless for home defense. Apparently it's great at taking out rattlesnakes and the like, but taking down an intruder isn't likely.
Should I just go with a lower grain JHP?
I doubt any hollow point would make it through an exterior wall. Another nice thing about HP's is they can do some major damage to the victim if they hit a bone going in.
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Originally Posted by YearOfTheNick
http:///forum/post/3235856
I've checked online and it looks like the shotshell is borderline useless for home defense. Apparently it's great at taking out rattlesnakes and the like, but taking down an intruder isn't likely.
Should I just go with a lower grain JHP?
The whole point is you have one or two rounds of that and then the real thing after. If you don't think they would do anything go hit a piece of plywood with one at about 10 feet. More effective than you might think.
I don't know if they sell Black Talons anymore but those would be a great round. They are designed to frag when they hit flesh so I would assume drywall would probably cause them to come apart.
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Some Hollow Point rounds and a hack saw and you can make your own

Those were a particularly nasty round.
 
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