Funny Wikileak story. The Cuban's ban Moore's Sicko because it is a load of crap...

stdreb27

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/17/wikileaks-cuba-banned-sicko
Cuba banned Michael Moore's 2007 documentary, Sicko, because it painted such a "mythically" favourable picture of Cuba's healthcare system that the authorities feared it could lead to a "popular backlash", according to US diplomats in Havana.
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The revelation, contained in a confidential US embassy cable released by WikiLeaks , is surprising, given that the film attempted to discredit the US healthcare system by highlighting what it claimed was the excellence of the Cuban system.
But the memo reveals that when the film was shown to a group of Cuban doctors, some became so "disturbed at the blatant misrepresentation of healthcare in Cuba that they left the room".
Castro's government apparently went on to ban the film because, the leaked cable claims, it "knows the film is a myth and does not want to risk a popular backlash by showing to Cubans facilities that are clearly not available to the vast majority of them."
(soon our healthcare system will be the same way.) a hospital for the politically correct and connected, and a "colored" hospital for the rest of us... You already see this with HOV lanes. If you conform to a liberal defined behavioral system. You can drive in a special lane just for you...
 
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Originally Posted by stdreb27 http:///forum/thread/382549/funny-wikileak-story-the-cuban-s-ban-moore-s-sicko-because-it-is-a-load-of-crap#post_3339379
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/17/wikileaks-cuba-banned-sicko
Cuba banned Michael Moore's 2007 documentary, Sicko, because it painted such a "mythically" favourable picture of Cuba's healthcare system that the authorities feared it could lead to a "popular backlash", according to US diplomats in Havana.
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Sicko
eight: bold; padding-top: 0px">Production year: 2007[*]Country: USA
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Cert (UK): 12A
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Runtime: 113 mins
Directors: Michael Moore
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The revelation, contained in a confidential US embassy cable released by WikiLeaks , is surprising, given that the film attempted to discredit the US healthcare system by highlighting what it claimed was the excellence of the Cuban system.
But the memo reveals that when the film was shown to a group of Cuban doctors, some became so "disturbed at the blatant misrepresentation of healthcare in Cuba that they left the room".
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Castro's government apparently went on to ban the film because, the leaked cable claims, it "knows the film is a myth and does not want to risk a popular backlash by showing to Cubans facilities that are clearly not available to the vast majority of them."
(soon our healthcare system will be the same way.) a hospital for the politically correct and connected, and a "colored" hospital for the rest of us... You already see this with HOV lanes. If you conform to a liberal defined behavioral system. You can drive in a special lane just for you...
I see someone is bored again. What's the matter? Having "Liberal Bashing Withdrawals"?

Curious. How are HOV lanes a "liberal defined behavioral system"? You lived in Houston. That city can't exist unless every single person over the age of 16 has a car, and public transportatin is virtually non-existent, so HOV lanes are about the only thing that makes traffic in that city tolerable. Just because you could never find anyone to put up with you while riding in a car, don't hate the people who do get along and can share a ride to enjoy the HOV lanes.
 
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Yeah, I dont see the correlation to the HOV lanes either... One thing I dont like about the HOV lanes here on Long Island is that as long as you have more than 1 person, of any age, in your car you are allowed to use them. So, anyone with a kid in the backseat can use it. The whole idea of them is to cut down on traffic by keeping some of the cars off the road, meaning with carpools.
Then again, when I pick up the boys from daycare at night I use the HOV coming home. Just cause I dont like the way the law is written doesnt mean I'm not gonna use it...
 
stdreb27

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Easy, HOV lanes are avaliable for 1 reason, besides to help create traffic congestion. It is designed to encorage people to behave in a certain way. The green way. And that is PURELY a liberal political issue. 2 people in your car somehow saves the planet. Interstingly enough the only way a single occupant can enjoy those soviet style central lanes is to drive the liberal approve hybrid.
(yes I know they allow motor cycles. But it isn't quite salacious enough for me...)
Lemme ask you this, why do double occupants, public transportation, and "green car" drivers deserve to have their own exclusive lanes, while taking lanes away from the rest of us who drive regular vehicles? And creating less road thus more traffic for the common person. The new I-10 in houston could have 3 more normal lanes if it weren't for the HOV lanes...
 
mrdc

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Good stuff. Michael Moore is so full of sh!t. I especially liked his capitalism movie (even though I have not watched it) since him making the movie and getting a ton of money is the capitalist way. Moore even offered all his servers recently for the wiki leak guy. If Moore hates this country so much, why doesn't he move to France?
 
bionicarm

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Originally Posted by stdreb27 http:///forum/thread/382549/funny-wikileak-story-the-cuban-s-ban-moore-s-sicko-because-it-is-a-load-of-crap#post_3339435
Easy, HOV lanes are avaliable for 1 reason, besides to help create traffic congestion. It is designed to encorage people to behave in a certain way. The green way. And that is PURELY a liberal political issue. 2 people in your car somehow saves the planet. Interstingly enough the only way a single occupant can enjoy those soviet style central lanes is to drive the liberal approve hybrid.
(yes I know they allow motor cycles. But it isn't quite salacious enough for me...)
Lemme ask you this, why do double occupants, public transportation, and "green car" drivers deserve to have their own exclusive lanes, while taking lanes away from the rest of us who drive regular vehicles? And creating less road thus more traffic for the common person. The new I-10 in houston could have 3 more normal lanes if it weren't for the HOV lanes...
As DragonZim sttated, the premise behind the HOV lanes was to reduce the number of vehicles on the highway by carpooling. If more people would carpool, thereby using the HOV lanes, it would free up traffic on the normal lanes. However, in the case of Texas, getting someone to go anywhere without driving themselves is like taking away their gun or six pack. HOV has been in place in Houston WAY before any of this "green environment" stuff came about. They had HOV lanes on I-45 when I still lived there in the late 70's. HOV is supposed to relive traffic congestion. If you did away with those 3 HOV lanes on I-10, it wouldn't relieve traffic that much. Those lanes have to end somewhere, and when they do, traffic jams begin. Trust me, the traffic on I-10 has vastly improved over what it used to be a few years ago. Traffic is one of the main reasons I left Houston. I got tired of sitting on the highway for 2 hours at a time without at least being able to pop a beer open while I was doing it.
 
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Originally Posted by mrdc http:///forum/thread/382549/funny-wikileak-story-the-cuban-s-ban-moore-s-sicko-because-it-is-a-load-of-crap#post_3339445
Good stuff. Michael Moore is so full of sh!t. I especially liked his capitalism movie (even though I have not watched it) since him making the movie and getting a ton of money is the capitalist way. Moore even offered all his servers recently for the wiki leak guy. If Moore hates this country so much, why doesn't he move to France?
appearently this cable is inaccurate... They didn't ban the movie.
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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/382549/funny-wikileak-story-the-cuban-s-ban-moore-s-sicko-because-it-is-a-load-of-crap#post_3339463
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Originally Posted by stdreb27 http:///forum/thread/382549/funny-wikileak-story-the-cuban-s-ban-moore-s-sicko-because-it-is-a-load-of-crap#post_3339435
Easy, HOV lanes are avaliable for 1 reason, besides to help create traffic congestion. It is designed to encorage people to behave in a certain way. The green way. And that is PURELY a liberal political issue. 2 people in your car somehow saves the planet. Interstingly enough the only way a single occupant can enjoy those soviet style central lanes is to drive the liberal approve hybrid.
(yes I know they allow motor cycles. But it isn't quite salacious enough for me...)
Lemme ask you this, why do double occupants, public transportation, and "green car" drivers deserve to have their own exclusive lanes, while taking lanes away from the rest of us who drive regular vehicles? And creating less road thus more traffic for the common person. The new I-10 in houston could have 3 more normal lanes if it weren't for the HOV lanes...
As DragonZim sttated, the premise behind the HOV lanes was to reduce the number of vehicles on the highway by carpooling. If more people would carpool, thereby using the HOV lanes, it would free up traffic on the normal lanes. However, in the case of Texas, getting someone to go anywhere without driving themselves is like taking away their gun or six pack. HOV has been in place in Houston WAY before any of this "green environment" stuff came about. They had HOV lanes on I-45 when I still lived there in the late 70's. HOV is supposed to relive traffic congestion. If you did away with those 3 HOV lanes on I-10, it wouldn't relieve traffic that much. Those lanes have to end somewhere, and when they do, traffic jams begin. Trust me, the traffic on I-10 has vastly improved over what it used to be a few years ago. Traffic is one of the main reasons I left Houston. I got tired of sitting on the highway for 2 hours at a time without at least being able to pop a beer open while I was doing it.

lol what you don't pop open a beer while driving home? Everyone else does it. (Quite frankly, Houston traffic isn't soo bad minus 2 roads 290 and 45 between 610 and downtown on the north side.) The freeways flow pretty well even during rush hour. It is the side streets and stuff that turn into a mess.
 
reefraff

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Not every liberal idea makes about as much sense as placing racing stripes on a snail, just most of them

HOV lanes have a proven cause and effect. Just cause you don't shower enough that people are willing to ride in your car don't be hatin on the HOV
Reef(looky Darth, I shot at both sides)Raff
 
bionicarm

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Originally Posted by stdreb27 http:///forum/thread/382549/funny-wikileak-story-the-cuban-s-ban-moore-s-sicko-because-it-is-a-load-of-crap#post_3339481
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Originally Posted by mrdc http:///forum/thread/382549/funny-wikileak-story-the-cuban-s-ban-moore-s-sicko-because-it-is-a-load-of-crap#post_3339445
Good stuff. Michael Moore is so full of sh!t. I especially liked his capitalism movie (even though I have not watched it) since him making the movie and getting a ton of money is the capitalist way. Moore even offered all his servers recently for the wiki leak guy. If Moore hates this country so much, why doesn't he move to France?
appearently this cable is inaccurate... They didn't ban the movie.
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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/382549/funny-wikileak-story-the-cuban-s-ban-moore-s-sicko-because-it-is-a-load-of-crap#post_3339463
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Originally Posted by stdreb27 http:///forum/thread/382549/funny-wikileak-story-the-cuban-s-ban-moore-s-sicko-because-it-is-a-load-of-crap#post_3339435
Easy, HOV lanes are avaliable for 1 reason, besides to help create traffic congestion. It is designed to encorage people to behave in a certain way. The green way. And that is PURELY a liberal political issue. 2 people in your car somehow saves the planet. Interstingly enough the only way a single occupant can enjoy those soviet style central lanes is to drive the liberal approve hybrid.
(yes I know they allow motor cycles. But it isn't quite salacious enough for me...)
Lemme ask you this, why do double occupants, public transportation, and "green car" drivers deserve to have their own exclusive lanes, while taking lanes away from the rest of us who drive regular vehicles? And creating less road thus more traffic for the common person. The new I-10 in houston could have 3 more normal lanes if it weren't for the HOV lanes...
As DragonZim sttated, the premise behind the HOV lanes was to reduce the number of vehicles on the highway by carpooling. If more people would carpool, thereby using the HOV lanes, it would free up traffic on the normal lanes. However, in the case of Texas, getting someone to go anywhere without driving themselves is like taking away their gun or six pack. HOV has been in place in Houston WAY before any of this "green environment" stuff came about. They had HOV lanes on I-45 when I still lived there in the late 70's. HOV is supposed to relive traffic congestion. If you did away with those 3 HOV lanes on I-10, it wouldn't relieve traffic that much. Those lanes have to end somewhere, and when they do, traffic jams begin. Trust me, the traffic on I-10 has vastly improved over what it used to be a few years ago. Traffic is one of the main reasons I left Houston. I got tired of sitting on the highway for 2 hours at a time without at least being able to pop a beer open while I was doing it.

lol what you don't pop open a beer while driving home? Everyone else does it. (Quite frankly, Houston traffic isn't soo bad minus 2 roads 290 and 45 between 610 and downtown on the north side.) The freeways flow pretty well even during rush hour. It is the side streets and stuff that turn into a mess.
I stopped after MADD got the government to ban the Open Container Law. I used to work in downtown Houston in the late 70's. If I couldn't get out of town before 3:00, there was a Stop N' Go on the corner down on Polk that I used to stop at and pick up a six pack to put in my styrofoam ice chest. I'd get down to T.C Jester on I-10, and the traffic would come to a complete stop. That's when I'd "pop a top", crank up the tunes, and sit and relax for the next 1 1/2 hours to get 15 miles. One day, I was just settling in to my daily regiment, pulled out a beer, popped it open, and looked to my left to see a cop looking right at me in the lane next to me. He does this circular motion to have me roll down my window. Expecting to get pulled over, I complide. The cop rolls down his window and says, "My partner and me just ended our shift, and are heading back to the station. You got a couple more beers?" I reached over to my ice chest, pulled two beers out, slid closer to their car, and tossed them to him. He said, "Appreciate it. Have a good one.", and proceeded to roll his window back up. I did the same, and continued listening to my ZZ Top....
 
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I don't share stdreb's all out hatred of the HOV lanes, but I do strongly agree with him, that the idea of using the HOV's, as some reward system, is moronic , which I think we talked about once before. Hybrids are more efficient in stop and go traffic, then just cruising the HOV lane. Most of all, if people really cared about this "green movement" and the environment as a whole, we would have put the cars/trucks in the HOV's that need it the most. There really isn't going to be a "green" (just died a little inside) replacement for your basic 18-wheeler any time in the near future. So instead of having them lumber through congestion, getting what, 3mpg? Get them into the HOV's, getting multiple times better mileage. But instead they put hybrids into the HOV's, where they actually get worse MPG then they would in stop-and-go traffic, just so their owners can put on some falsely justified persona.
What's next, tax credits for people who purchase TV's under 32"?
 
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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/382549/funny-wikileak-story-the-cuban-s-ban-moore-s-sicko-because-it-is-a-load-of-crap#post_3339499
I stopped after MADD got the government to ban the Open Container Law. I used to work in downtown Houston in the late 70's. If I couldn't get out of town before 3:00, there was a Stop N' Go on the corner down on Polk that I used to stop at and pick up a six pack to put in my styrofoam ice chest. I'd get down to T.C Jester on I-10, and the traffic would come to a complete stop. That's when I'd "pop a top", crank up the tunes, and sit and relax for the next 1 1/2 hours to get 15 miles. One day, I was just settling in to my daily regiment, pulled out a beer, popped it open, and looked to my left to see a cop looking right at me in the lane next to me. He does this circular motion to have me roll down my window. Expecting to get pulled over, I complide. The cop rolls down his window and says, "My partner and me just ended our shift, and are heading back to the station. You got a couple more beers?" I reached over to my ice chest, pulled two beers out, slid closer to their car, and tossed them to him. He said, "Appreciate it. Have a good one.", and proceeded to roll his window back up. I did the same, and continued listening to my ZZ Top....
lol, actually outgoing in that area isn't that bad anymore. It slows down but you're talking 45 vs 75.
 
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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/382549/funny-wikileak-story-the-cuban-s-ban-moore-s-sicko-because-it-is-a-load-of-crap#post_3339499
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Originally Posted by stdreb27 http:///forum/thread/382549/funny-wikileak-story-the-cuban-s-ban-moore-s-sicko-because-it-is-a-load-of-crap#post_3339481
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Originally Posted by mrdc http:///forum/thread/382549/funny-wikileak-story-the-cuban-s-ban-moore-s-sicko-because-it-is-a-load-of-crap#post_3339445
Good stuff. Michael Moore is so full of sh!t. I especially liked his capitalism movie (even though I have not watched it) since him making the movie and getting a ton of money is the capitalist way. Moore even offered all his servers recently for the wiki leak guy. If Moore hates this country so much, why doesn't he move to France?
appearently this cable is inaccurate... They didn't ban the movie.
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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/382549/funny-wikileak-story-the-cuban-s-ban-moore-s-sicko-because-it-is-a-load-of-crap#post_3339463
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Originally Posted by stdreb27 http:///forum/thread/382549/funny-wikileak-story-the-cuban-s-ban-moore-s-sicko-because-it-is-a-load-of-crap#post_3339435
Easy, HOV lanes are avaliable for 1 reason, besides to help create traffic congestion. It is designed to encorage people to behave in a certain way. The green way. And that is PURELY a liberal political issue. 2 people in your car somehow saves the planet. Interstingly enough the only way a single occupant can enjoy those soviet style central lanes is to drive the liberal approve hybrid.
(yes I know they allow motor cycles. But it isn't quite salacious enough for me...)
Lemme ask you this, why do double occupants, public transportation, and "green car" drivers deserve to have their own exclusive lanes, while taking lanes away from the rest of us who drive regular vehicles? And creating less road thus more traffic for the common person. The new I-10 in houston could have 3 more normal lanes if it weren't for the HOV lanes...
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As DragonZim sttated, the premise behind the HOV lanes was to reduce the number of vehicles on the highway by carpooling. If more people would carpool, thereby using the HOV lanes, it would free up traffic on the normal lanes. However, in the case of Texas, getting someone to go anywhere without driving themselves is like taking away their gun or six pack. HOV has been in place in Houston WAY before any of this "green environment" stuff came about. They had HOV lanes on I-45 when I still lived there in the late 70's. HOV is supposed to relive traffic congestion. If you did away with those 3 HOV lanes on I-10, it wouldn't relieve traffic that much. Those lanes have to end somewhere, and when they do, traffic jams begin. Trust me, the traffic on I-10 has vastly improved over what it used to be a few years ago. Traffic is one of the main reasons I left Houston. I got tired of sitting on the highway for 2 hours at a time without at least being able to pop a beer open while I was doing it.

lol what you don't pop open a beer while driving home? Everyone else does it. (Quite frankly, Houston traffic isn't soo bad minus 2 roads 290 and 45 between 610 and downtown on the north side.) The freeways flow pretty well even during rush hour. It is the side streets and stuff that turn into a mess.
I stopped after MADD got the government to ban the Open Container Law. I used to work in downtown Houston in the late 70's. If I couldn't get out of town before 3:00, there was a Stop N' Go on the corner down on Polk that I used to stop at and pick up a six pack to put in my styrofoam ice chest. I'd get down to T.C Jester on I-10, and the traffic would come to a complete stop. That's when I'd "pop a top", crank up the tunes, and sit and relax for the next 1 1/2 hours to get 15 miles. One day, I was just settling in to my daily regiment, pulled out a beer, popped it open, and looked to my left to see a cop looking right at me in the lane next to me. He does this circular motion to have me roll down my window. Expecting to get pulled over, I complide. The cop rolls down his window and says, "My partner and me just ended our shift, and are heading back to the station. You got a couple more beers?" I reached over to my ice chest, pulled two beers out, slid closer to their car, and tossed them to him. He said, "Appreciate it. Have a good one.", and proceeded to roll his window back up. I did the same, and continued listening to my ZZ Top....
When I'd get stuck in Downtown LA I'd stop for a 40 before I hit I 5 to head back to orange country. I'd just dump it in a big ol 7-11 soda cup. What the cops couldn't see wouldn't hurt them LOL!
 
reefraff

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Anyone see the story about king Wiki's lawyer crying because someone leaked the details of his arrest warrant LOL!
 
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Originally Posted by DragonZim http:///forum/thread/382549/funny-wikileak-story-the-cuban-s-ban-moore-s-sicko-because-it-is-a-load-of-crap#post_3339429
Yeah, I dont see the correlation to the HOV lanes either... One thing I dont like about the HOV lanes here on Long Island is that as long as you have more than 1 person, of any age, in your car you are allowed to use them. So, anyone with a kid in the backseat can use it. The whole idea of them is to cut down on traffic by keeping some of the cars off the road, meaning with carpools.
Then again, when I pick up the boys from daycare at night I use the HOV coming home. Just cause I dont like the way the law is written doesnt mean I'm not gonna use it...

Way to stick to your principles there guy.
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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///forum/thread/382549/funny-wikileak-story-the-cuban-s-ban-moore-s-sicko-because-it-is-a-load-of-crap#post_3339490
Not every liberal idea makes about as much sense as placing racing stripes on a snail, just most of them

HOV lanes have a proven cause and effect. Just cause you don't shower enough that people are willing to ride in your car don't be hatin on the HOV
Reef(looky Darth, I shot at both sides)Raff
Very nice, now get me a beer Padawan.
Darth (I never have a problem when I use the shoulder) Tang
 
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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///forum/thread/382549/funny-wikileak-story-the-cuban-s-ban-moore-s-sicko-because-it-is-a-load-of-crap#post_3340236
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Originally Posted by DragonZim http:///forum/thread/382549/funny-wikileak-story-the-cuban-s-ban-moore-s-sicko-because-it-is-a-load-of-crap#post_3339429
Yeah, I dont see the correlation to the HOV lanes either... One thing I dont like about the HOV lanes here on Long Island is that as long as you have more than 1 person, of any age, in your car you are allowed to use them. So, anyone with a kid in the backseat can use it. The whole idea of them is to cut down on traffic by keeping some of the cars off the road, meaning with carpools.
Then again, when I pick up the boys from daycare at night I use the HOV coming home. Just cause I dont like the way the law is written doesnt mean I'm not gonna use it...

Way to stick to your principles there guy.
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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///forum/thread/382549/funny-wikileak-story-the-cuban-s-ban-moore-s-sicko-because-it-is-a-load-of-crap#post_3339490
Not every liberal idea makes about as much sense as placing racing stripes on a snail, just most of them

HOV lanes have a proven cause and effect. Just cause you don't shower enough that people are willing to ride in your car don't be hatin on the HOV
Reef(looky Darth, I shot at both sides)Raff
Very nice, now get me a beer Padawan.
Darth (I never have a problem when I use the shoulder) Tang
Get yer own beer buckethead
Reef(I invented the dark side)Raff
 
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