good beginner herps

sharkboy13

Active Member
while there r beginner fish threads i thot all of us herpers would start a good beginner herp thread. here r the candidates i have thot of, feel free to add or make suggestions:
kingsnakes
if held as babies these snakes will be very tame as adults. most kings grow to 5ft so the enclosure should be minimum half as long as the snake and atleast one quarter, but bigger is better
corn snakes
corn snakes r excellent beginner species as they r very docile, mostly inexspensive and usually grow to about 3ft. adult corns usually will eat pinkies (baby mice) to adults.
CB ball pythons
these r one of the best starter constrictors for those of us that want a little excitement in our in lives. these snakes generally grow to 4-5ft. if u obtain a bad tempered baby snake then just excercise holding it w/ gloves and as it calms down begin to hold it naturally. adults will usually eat rat hoppers or adult rats. NOTE:if u acquire a python that refuses to eat DO NOT worry this is typical ball python behavior, he will begin to eat w/in the next 2-4wks.
rat snakes
refer to corns. added side note these snakes get about 5 feet and can be mildly aggressive.
milk snakes
refer to kingsnake
leopard geckos
leopard geckos need about a 2ft long by 1.5ft wide tank w/ a intense light and sandy substrate. as with ALL lizards they require UV and UVB lighting to maintain calcium levels.
bearded dragons
beardies r one of the best lizards to have, they have good personalities and r often offered in amazing patterns/colors. these lizards require a diet of insects and some veggies. altho DO NOT use icerberg lettuce as this contains a deadly bacteria for lizards, tortoises, and terrestrial turtles. once again as with all lizards they must have a UV and UVB bulb to to sustain calcium levels
anoles
tree frogs (excluding red eyes)
tho tree frogs require heavily upon moisture it is not necessary to mist them all the time, instead have moss or a water retaining substrate such as crushed coconut bark. tree frogs should have plenty of places to climb and should only be handled w/ rubber gloves as any acids or other liquids will burn their absorbent skin. these animals once again need a insect diet.

blue tongue skinks
these lizards should be cautioned as some r very territorial and aggressive and will cause and nasty bite. as with all lizards they need UV UVB lights and should have a diet of insects and veggies. a soft substrate should be had as well as many hiding places.

rose hair tarantulashobbyists should be wary of these tarantulas, altho they may seem calm always be aware of theire tempermant, if u should do something wrong they will flick stinging hairs into ur eyes nose an mouth. they should have a wet sponge and insect diet as well as a soft substrate and hiding place.

emperor scorpsrefer to tarantulas except replace stinging hairs w/ burning needle like sting

fire belly toads and newts
these if had should indefinetley have a enclosure that is mostly water with some resting spots. these amphibs r poisonous so if u irriatate them do no lick them (im not telling the adults im telling the children of the adults) they should almost nevr be handled except when necessary. they should have a feeder guppy and insect diet.

CB mali uromastxy
these can be somewhat delicate animals and often refuse to eat if WC, UVB and UV should be had as well as most lizards and prefer a veggie diet but will accept insects. they should have a hiding spot to get away from the heat.

sooner or later ill make a thread about new herps most hobbyists should avoid because of difficulty of care or danger
note to beginners, if u r limited on space then u should get a snake for they do not require as large a enclosure. if not setup a 20gal aquarium and have a leopard gecko or CB mali uro
 

windmill

Member
I've always been quite fond of Komodo dragons. Always so friendly and eager to slobber on an open wound.
 

sharkboy13

Active Member
savannahs def not, many lfs or lhs will pass black throats, a VERY diff monitor off as them, black throats r mean and i nearly had my thumb degloved by one. chinese water dragons r ok beginner herps but i wouldnt suggest it just becuz they can have a tendency to tail whip which can be discouraging to beginner herp owners. most of the animals i have suggested (i said most not all) can be held. i wouldnt reccomend holding inverts or amphibs to any1 just cuz both r very fragile in terms of the fact that inverts as we all know have exoskeletons and if dropped can be killed. amphibs r fragile just cuz if u have any like toxic or acitic liquids on ur hands they will absord it and kill them
 

blizz75

Member
savs are actually pretty easy to keep but their size is a bit large for a beginer. I would add CAPTIVE BRED mali uros to the list. Only MALIS as well nigerians are mostly WC and dont do as well in captivity
Sharkboy if ur starting an informational thread then you should add info on each herp.
 

sugarfox03

Member
Honestly, I dont think any herps are really super easy to care for. I thought beardies were, but they are actually a lot of work! Other than small snakes (ball python size or less) the rest are a bit difficult. For lizards, you have to have UVA/UVB & heat lamps, you have to get temps & humidity perfect, you have to get the calcium & vitamin powders right, and given in the right doses, you have to have the right feeder insects/greens/veggies. I have a whites/dumpy tree frog, he's not too difficult to care for. I have had all kinds of reptiles though. They are great! As with anything, do the research before you buy the animal. Make sure you are able to care for it as an adult, as some get very large!
 

blizz75

Member
there not the easiest pets to keep but you have to start somewhere and this is a thread suggesting to people where to start.
 

sharkboy13

Active Member
exactly, i have edited it to my best knowledge (remember its friday and my mind is on vacation in hawaii.) blizz tell me if i missed anything
 

petjunkie

Active Member
What about crested geckos? Is that the right kind? I know some kinds of geckos are nocturnal so don't require uvb. Also I would add only buy captive bred ball pythons for a first snake, wild caught ones are so prone to parasites and refusing to eat. I love lizards for some reason, but they creep the rest of my family out.
 

sharkboy13

Active Member
well my ball is WC and he eats fine but ill add them to the list. up to my knowledge there is no lizard that doesnt need UV and UVB
 

petjunkie

Active Member
It' s tokay geckos! Off a care sheet " As Tokay geckos are nocturnal, ultra-violet lighting is not necessary but can be used for aesthetic purposes " And snakes don't need it either. Also some frogs I thought.
 

rykna

Active Member
Originally Posted by blizz75
there not the easiest pets to keep but you have to start somewhere and this is a thread suggesting to people where to start.
Really????? Man I would choose my iguana or my corn snake over a cat any day. My iguana Dragon was litter trained, she loved to ride in the car, and go to the beach. The problem with a lot of reptiles is that there aren't many vets out there that know how to treat theses animals. I paid one vet who was advertised as certified in the care of exoctic pets including iguanans. I took Dragon in looking forward to hearing how she was doing and whether or not I was giving her proper care. I paid $125 dollars to have the vet tell me she was a nice green color!!! :mad: I also lost Dragon to another supposedly certifeid vet. Dragon had started changing to a sickly orange color. It crept up her legs and slowly corvered her body. The vet diagnosed it a metabolic bone disease. A very tipicle problem with reptiles, a lot of owners aren't feeding their green friends enough calcium causing dicoloration and fragile bones and eventually death. I knew this was not the problem with Dragon, but I trusted the vet to do what was best. In the end a long over due exray of her corpse revealed that Dragon had died of impacted eggs. Her own body had poisoned her......the vet apologized many times over. That was many years ago. Iguanas take a lot of time, almost as much time as having a 2 year old. A beautiful animal.
 
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