Help bubble tip anemone

fumanchu88

Member
I purchased this big fella at my local fish store It almost looks like it has 2 mouths and it has been acting really strange latley.First off he wont stay where I put him(normal).but he keeps wraping himself around rocks and the bubbles on his tips are elongated and not bubble tipped anymore.Any help would be appreciated thanks.
 

sk8shorty01

Active Member
It looks bleached to me, but I could be wrong. The bubbles tend to come and go, as mine doesnt seem to keep the bubbles fully all the time. It might be reaching out for food or more lighting. I would imagine that the two mouths indicate a split coming soon, as bubble tips are known to readily do this in the home aquarium. What kind of lighting do you have? What are your parameters? How long has it been in the tank? What are you spot feeding this with?
BTW, you might want to take out that link, if they sell stuff, its not allowed on here. Dont want you to get ripped up by the MOD's hehe...
 

fumanchu88

Member
no I dont think it's not bleached thats what color it was when I bought it and they had it under metal halide.My lighting is 2 65 watt VHO florecent sp. bulbs .He has only been in the tank for a week but he is the largest bubble tip I have ever seen plus his cool neon green color water parameters are
PH 8.2
Nitrites .25
Nitrates 80
ammonia 0
 

sk8shorty01

Active Member
It could be that your trites are still present. From what I understand anemones need "pristine" water conditions and any sign of nitrites takes that part out. I think he will be fine and might be adjusting to the lighting change. It will probably fill back up within a few days after it gets used to the new lighting. Just dont try and move it, as it will probably not like to be where you put it anyways!
 

lexluethar

Active Member
Your NI should be at 0 (unless you are still cycling), and NA are WAY TOO HIGH to keep an anemone, like the previous poster stated they require great water quality. I don't think 80 NA is safe even for some fish, let alone an anemone.
I would do some water changes and try to get your NA to 0.
 

farslayer

Active Member
Yup, you should never have nitrite and your nitrates are way too high. Also, that anemone is bleached, it looks almost pure white. Anemones should not look that way, so he is likely stretching for light. You need to get it out of your tank. Rapid water changes to reduce nitrates are going to cause more problems than what they solve, you need to do this gradually. Unfortunately, the anemone may not last that long, so I'd take it elsewhere until you get your tank under control.
 

rabbit_72

Member
Your BTA is definitly bleached. I can almost see through it. I think you have a Condi on another thread. It colored up as should this BTA. If you don't have a stable tank to move it to while you do water changes, you may have to take your chances and do water changes anyway, or take the anemone back to where you got it. Also remember that you need to feed it about 3x a week with meaty foods. This will help it to recover as well.
 

shrimpi

Active Member
The BTA is going to split. Sometimes they do this because they are happy and healthy. More likely in your case: the other reason an anemone splits is due to stress, unhappyness or some sort- and to 'double' the chance of survival by splitting in two.
A combination of a bleached specimen and poor waterconditions is whats causing him to split.
Regardless, this is what you do:

POSITIONING: Leave him alone. If you have tried to relocate him yourself you will just stress him more.I assume you have tried to move him or place him according to this:
First off he wont stay where I put him(normal)
FEEDING:Offer him nice meaty foods- in large peices- not a soupy formula. although many reefers have had great sucess with a more soupy formula, your trates are high and you need to conserve the amount of waste in your tank going uneaten. I would also recommend soaking the meaty food in something like zoe or selcon just to boost the nutritional value, for whatever thats worth. Feed him OFTEN. Usually you would feed an anemone a few (2-3x week). A sick anemone will benefit from more feedings- but do not overfeed him. Just because you are feeding him more often, doesnt mean you should pack him full. The anemone will basically take whatever you offer, and then throw it up later- if its too much. Anemone vomit (aka undigested food) is a major pollutant to your tank and will make the tank water even worse. Mostly they do this at night so you may not even know its happening.
- on the feeding note, try to limit the amount that you are feeding your tank in general, this will help lessen the nitrate production. Rinse your sponges in your overflow and change filter floss to get out any decaying food matter, along with water changes, your trates will begin to produce less and less. Get a fuge or at least throw some plants in your tank. Plants suck up trates.
LIGHTING: Again, although many reefers have had great sucess with PCs. you should invest in some MHs for long term sucess with your Anemone. Give him the best environment you can.
How large is your tank? you may be maxed out on bioload which is contributing to the water issue.
BTAs are amazing little critters. You CAN bring himback to good health and if you think his neon green color is nice now, wait and see how he looks as he starts to recover!
Best of luck to you, hopefully we can help you along the way.
Alot of LFS get in anemones and they are bleached already, they throw them in a MH tank to make buyers think that "is the way the BTA is supposed to look, cause hey its under MHs!....." Yeah OK.
Good Luck,
Jessica/Shrimpi
 

fumanchu88

Member

Originally Posted by Shrimpi
The BTA is going to split. Sometimes they do this because they are happy and healthy. More likely in your case: the other reason an anemone splits is due to stress, unhappyness or some sort- and to 'double' the chance of survival by splitting in two.
A combination of a bleached specimen and poor waterconditions is whats causing him to split.
Regardless, this is what you do:

POSITIONING: Leave him alone. If you have tried to relocate him yourself you will just stress him more.I assume you have tried to move him or place him according to this:
FEEDING:Offer him nice meaty foods- in large peices- not a soupy formula. although many reefers have had great sucess with a more soupy formula, your trates are high and you need to conserve the amount of waste in your tank going uneaten. I would also recommend soaking the meaty food in something like zoe or selcon just to boost the nutritional value, for whatever thats worth. Feed him OFTEN. Usually you would feed an anemone a few (2-3x week). A sick anemone will benefit from more feedings- but do not overfeed him. Just because you are feeding him more often, doesnt mean you should pack him full. The anemone will basically take whatever you offer, and then throw it up later- if its too much. Anemone vomit (aka undigested food) is a major pollutant to your tank and will make the tank water even worse. Mostly they do this at night so you may not even know its happening.
- on the feeding note, try to limit the amount that you are feeding your tank in general, this will help lessen the nitrate production. Rinse your sponges in your overflow and change filter floss to get out any decaying food matter, along with water changes, your trates will begin to produce less and less. Get a fuge or at least throw some plants in your tank. Plants suck up trates.
LIGHTING: Again, although many reefers have had great sucess with PCs. you should invest in some MHs for long term sucess with your Anemone. Give him the best environment you can.
How large is your tank? you may be maxed out on bioload which is contributing to the water issue.
BTAs are amazing little critters. You CAN bring himback to good health and if you think his neon green color is nice now, wait and see how he looks as he starts to recover!
Best of luck to you, hopefully we can help you along the way.
Alot of LFS get in anemones and they are bleached already, they throw them in a MH tank to make buyers think that "is the way the BTA is supposed to look, cause hey its under MHs!....." Yeah OK.
Good Luck,
Jessica/Shrimpi
thank you for your thoughts
 
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essop3

Guest
Farslayer and Rabbit are right. That anemone is bleached. It could recover with feeding and good light but not in an uncycled tank. What other livestock are you keeping? If you have other livestock you need to do water changes to get your nitrates/nitrites lower. Nitrites should be zero for anything to be in your tank.
 

robdog696

Member
BTAs natural environment is to wedge between two rocks with only their tentacles sticking out. Mine went through phases of looking unhealthy until it found a spot between two rocks. It hasn't moved in over a month and seems very happy. Longer tentacles indicate it is trying to get more light. Anything I tell you to do about that would contradict letting it find a spot where it's happy. Except make sure your rock is stacked in a way that it can move up if it wants to. I feed mine a small silverside every few days. It seems much happier with this diet than the "target feeding" krill, plankton, and brine shrimp I was doing previously. Good luck!
 

sk8shorty01

Active Member
Originally Posted by essop3
Farslayer and Rabbit are right. That anemone is bleached. It could recover with feeding and good light but not in an uncycled tank. What other livestock are you keeping? If you have other livestock you need to do water changes to get your nitrates/nitrites lower. Nitrites should be zero for anything to be in your tank.
<sniffle, sniffle> you forgot about poor me. I said it too. HAHA. Yeah I assumed it was bleached before, although I have not seen a green bubble tip first hand. It can recover if the proper steps are taken in order to keep it healthy and in stable conditions.
Here is a picture of my bubble tip as a reference.



 

sk8shorty01

Active Member
Oh woops, I added the ones with my clown hosting, either way they work. The anemone is kind of closing up in those pictures because I think it was a little scared as those pictures are seconds after the clown finally started hosting that anemone. It came back to full "bloom" shortly after though, as you can see in the last pictures.
 
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essop3

Guest
After reading your other thread I think I know the cause of your poor water quality. You have more fish in your 55g than I would put in a 125g.
 
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