help i think my blu tang is sick

john griffin

New Member
i just noticed my blue tang has little white dots on his head and up his fin ive never seen ick before so i dont know what it looks like and i have hundreds of dollars in corals and i dont have a second tank to put them in so i can medicate them the dots are small and white and go up his heae and top fin is it ick? is there med i can use that wont harm corals pllease write back my e mail is johngriffin61@cs.com
 

beth

Administrator
Staff member
Yes, it does sound like ich. Have you added any new fish lately?
Ich is highly contagious so you will need to treat all the fish in a hospital tank using hyposalinity.
 

timsedwards

Active Member
Hmmmm is it on the anal fin at all? It may be HLLE, there are other alternatives to hyposalinity but we need to be sure of what it is first. I am about to try a new cure to Ick after speaking to the European Distributing CEO of Kent Marine Products using a mixture of RX-P and Poly-Ox that is reef safe and takes 3 days (6 days max). I will let you know how that gets on.
All the best,
Tim.
 

timsedwards

Active Member
yes because IMO you might be using it wrongly, it is best to use it with Poly-Ox otherwise it is probably useless. But with all due respect, if it didnt work a reputable company like Kent wouldnt market it ;)
Time will tell, i am more than prepared to eat my words although i hope it works, but the information I had was of the very best source possible so we shall see.
Kindest regards,
 

timsedwards

Active Member
Terry,
Please can you have some scope that there maybe other people who may have an idea on some aspects of disease. We all more than respect you and your vast amount of knowledge and no one would deny you that which is infinately useful, but cant we agree to disagree?
I have not said that any of your treatments do not work or arent any use, far from it, I am just saying that a hugely qualified person who MAKES THE TREATMENTS has said this works in the UK 100% of the time, you cant blame me for trying it. If it doesnt work I will let you know and will certainly not recommend it to anyone. If I was in the states I would immediately buy a Refractometer and do your method for $50, over here refractometers are scarce and cost $250, and I am a student and cannot afford that. However I am trying to organise to buy one from the states. Until then you have to respect I am going to exhaust this avenue on RxP and Poly-Ox.
I hope you can appreciate this point of view and that we can agree to disagree peacefully :)
All the best,
Tim.
 

timsedwards

Active Member
Hi Terry,
OK I can see some of your points, you are right I have not tested it thoroughly myself yet, im just going on an experts advice. I will not recommend it to anyone until i have had a positive experience. BTW so far it is working, but with Ich I imagine i have to wait to see if it comes back.
I never doubted your knowledge Terry I wouldnt dare, just that this was new information. Well the Poly Ox is useless on its own, you are right, but apparently when used in direct combination with RxP it does work, time will tell.
All the best hope there are no hard feelings,
Tim.
 

timsedwards

Active Member
Hi Terry,
Yes I am currently setting up a QT and cycling it and that will be the way I introduce new fish for the future, we learn sometimes by our mistakes.
No 3 days wont be enough, which is why I am doing 3 batches of 3 day treatments to get the parasite at the point it attaches itself to the fish.
Anyway I will let you know, all the best,
Tim.
 

beth

Administrator
Staff member
tim, BTW, while a refract is a very accurate means of testing salinity levels, a quality glass hydrometer is also a good method. Given the choice between dosing my tank with meds and using a glass hydrometer, I'd gone with the glass hydrometer and hypo. The success rate is pretty high up there.
I've seen people using the reef safe products, and have seen the results on their reefs down the road, not a pretty sight at all.
I've also tested my own glass hydrometer against my refract and have come up with the same results at varying levels of salinity in the test water, including the 1.009 target. That's not to say that hobbyists should just not think about getting a refract because the glass works the same, it is just saying that hypo is the best treatment, all around, for ich. Its not easy, but it is the best. In this hobby, we should always have on our “to get list” the best that we can get. If hobbyists are willing to pay a ransom for their lighting, then they should be also thinking about ensuring the quality of water—which includes stable and accurate salinity levels. Water quality is, after all, the most important thing to consider when setting up any kind of marine tank.
Bottom line is that its very easy to pour chemicals into our tanks and that tends to be what hobbyists hope for when faced with a disease crisis with their fish. This is not a viable solution to treating fish diseases. Even if you do cure the disease, the ramifications on the tank environment could potentially be disastrous.
Good luck.
 

timsedwards

Active Member
Hi Beth,
Yes I would definately agree with you, hypo is best, but that option sadly wasnt open for me. I wish it was. So I had to do the next best thing.
However, I have learnt from my experience and am currently setting up a QT cycling it from today. I am also looking to get a friend of mine on the board, eng50, to get a refractometer over in your neck of the woods and send it to me seeing it is soo much cheaper. So I am trying my best :)
Im also looking to get a UV steriliser, ive done my research and I feel that the advantages far out weight the disadvantages, in as much as if I feed the corals and give them personal attention (wouldnt we all like that!) it shouldnt be so bad.
Just for the record, RxP is all natural ingredients, mainly peppers and chilli. Poly-Ox is mainly freshwater plant extract similar to aloe vera.
Thanks for the help beth!
Tim.
 

timsedwards

Active Member
Yup will keep you posted.
Its Day 3/4 at the moment and nothing has come back, but I am treating them again today, so fingers crossed. The hydrometer I cna only afford at the end of the month or so, and then I have to wait for it to be shipped to the UK! So I am hoping this will work!
All the best Terry,
Tim.
 
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