Hints on Lionfish tankmates
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aqua_scaping
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I am sorry to burst your bubble but i would have to say no to the frogfish, unless the lion is 3 times the frogfish size i would be worried about the frogfish tryign to eat it in one gulp, finding itself that it can and die from the poison and the lionfish die from the frogfish.
prime311
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Originally Posted by Aqua_Scaping
http:///forum/post/2634473
I am sorry to burst your bubble but i would have to say no to the frogfish, unless the lion is 3 times the frogfish size i would be worried about the frogfish tryign to eat it in one gulp, finding itself that it can and die from the poison and the lionfish die from the frogfish.
A frogfish eating a Lion? I didn't think they got that big.
http:///forum/post/2634473
I am sorry to burst your bubble but i would have to say no to the frogfish, unless the lion is 3 times the frogfish size i would be worried about the frogfish tryign to eat it in one gulp, finding itself that it can and die from the poison and the lionfish die from the frogfish.
A frogfish eating a Lion? I didn't think they got that big.
aqua_scaping
Member
Frogfish are like vaccums prime311, the will eat a fish the size of their body or even BIGGER at times they can sawallow the bigger fish but sometimes they cannot causing the to choke and usually resulsting in the one getting eaten, to die in the proccess. That is why imo frogfish should be added last with all the other fish full size. My lfs has a sargassum that just ate a 4 inch mappa puffer (waste of money) so they moved their 4inch sargassum to another tank.
Originally Posted by kaliman33
http:///forum/post/2634517
I have my lion with a emporer angel, foxface rabbit, niger trigger, humu trigger, conger eel, hippo tang, minicus grouper, lunar wrasse, all get along great. going to look at a unicorn tang today
Keep an eye on the humu trigger with the lion. They are known to snap and kill lionfish. I had a 2.5 inch humu snap and take out a 9 inch Volitans Lion
http:///forum/post/2634517
I have my lion with a emporer angel, foxface rabbit, niger trigger, humu trigger, conger eel, hippo tang, minicus grouper, lunar wrasse, all get along great. going to look at a unicorn tang today
Keep an eye on the humu trigger with the lion. They are known to snap and kill lionfish. I had a 2.5 inch humu snap and take out a 9 inch Volitans Lion
prime311
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It's not recommended to put a Lion with a Puffer or Triggers as there have been many accounts of this leading to aggression problems, feeding difficulties, and dead Lions. Thats not to say no ones done it successfully, its just a risk and the safer option would be to choose something other then these 2 types.
masc0006
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Originally Posted by Aqua_Scaping
http:///forum/post/2634490
Frogfish are like vaccums prime311, the will eat a fish the size of their body or even BIGGER at times they can sawallow the bigger fish but sometimes they cannot causing the to choke and usually resulsting in the one getting eaten, to die in the proccess. That is why imo frogfish should be added last with all the other fish full size. My lfs has a sargassum that just ate a 4 inch mappa puffer (waste of money) so they moved their 4inch sargassum to another tank.
My Lion is about 7 inches, with all of the fins. I have been researching frogs, and am aware that they tend to imitate vacuum cleaners. That said, I just think that my Lion is too big for him to even consider. If I got a Frog, it would prob be about 3-4 inches, but I think that there is a risk in mixing almost any fish, isn't there. Does anyone know a bunch about frog fish, are they really as cool as they look???
http:///forum/post/2634490
Frogfish are like vaccums prime311, the will eat a fish the size of their body or even BIGGER at times they can sawallow the bigger fish but sometimes they cannot causing the to choke and usually resulsting in the one getting eaten, to die in the proccess. That is why imo frogfish should be added last with all the other fish full size. My lfs has a sargassum that just ate a 4 inch mappa puffer (waste of money) so they moved their 4inch sargassum to another tank.
My Lion is about 7 inches, with all of the fins. I have been researching frogs, and am aware that they tend to imitate vacuum cleaners. That said, I just think that my Lion is too big for him to even consider. If I got a Frog, it would prob be about 3-4 inches, but I think that there is a risk in mixing almost any fish, isn't there. Does anyone know a bunch about frog fish, are they really as cool as they look???
aquaknight
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Best tip for tankmates with lions, is to avoid other fish with teeth. Triggers and Puffers mostly, I would also lump large wrasses (who definitely have teeth) into that category as well. The others is to avoid are known 'bullies' with lions, such as aggressive angels like Passers and Queens, and Sohal Tangs.
Some great options for Lions include, large hamlets, large porkfish/grunts, snappers (you will need a big tank tho), passive tangs like Nasos (again, big tank), lookdowns and other jacks (huge tank), large angels introduced after the lion, and batfish (huge tank).
Some great options for Lions include, large hamlets, large porkfish/grunts, snappers (you will need a big tank tho), passive tangs like Nasos (again, big tank), lookdowns and other jacks (huge tank), large angels introduced after the lion, and batfish (huge tank).
masc0006
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Right now I do not have a big enough tank for a Koran, I know this, but I really like the way they look. I am coming to the realization that I am going to have to go out and purchase a bigger tank to do all of the stuff that I want to do. I also think that a Cream Angel would be pretty cool, and they don't get as big as a Koran, right? I think that I will stick with getting a frog now, because I don't think that it would be possible for him to eat the Lion, and then I will fill in the rest from there.
aqua_scaping
Member
Originally Posted by masc0006
http:///forum/post/2634559
My Lion is about 7 inches, with all of the fins. I have been researching frogs, and am aware that they tend to imitate vacuum cleaners. That said, I just think that my Lion is too big for him to even consider. If I got a Frog, it would prob be about 3-4 inches, but I think that there is a risk in mixing almost any fish, isn't there. Does anyone know a bunch about frog fish, are they really as cool as they look???
as of now i have a wartskin angler in a 40 gallon by its self, i tried to keep several fish with it but all it has done was smile as they dissapeared. If you have any qwuestions i will answer best to my ability.
40 gallon hex
30 lbs of lr
canister filter
protien skimmer (i forget name)
3 inch sandbed
some shrooms
and my feeding habits for it is getting frozen sardins, smelts, krill etc and tie the tail to the lr and let it eat.... if u would like to know anything else i will be more then happy to tell you...... as of right now i bought 4 damsels for it so goodluck and havefun.......
http:///forum/post/2634559
My Lion is about 7 inches, with all of the fins. I have been researching frogs, and am aware that they tend to imitate vacuum cleaners. That said, I just think that my Lion is too big for him to even consider. If I got a Frog, it would prob be about 3-4 inches, but I think that there is a risk in mixing almost any fish, isn't there. Does anyone know a bunch about frog fish, are they really as cool as they look???
as of now i have a wartskin angler in a 40 gallon by its self, i tried to keep several fish with it but all it has done was smile as they dissapeared. If you have any qwuestions i will answer best to my ability.
40 gallon hex
30 lbs of lr
canister filter
protien skimmer (i forget name)
3 inch sandbed
some shrooms
and my feeding habits for it is getting frozen sardins, smelts, krill etc and tie the tail to the lr and let it eat.... if u would like to know anything else i will be more then happy to tell you...... as of right now i bought 4 damsels for it so goodluck and havefun.......
aqua_scaping
Member
since i dont have a video camera here is a smaple video of how big of fish a frogfish can eat http://youtube.com/watch?v=6cO4MzYMh3M
masc0006
New Member
Originally Posted by Aqua_Scaping
http:///forum/post/2634601
as of now i have a wartskin angler in a 40 gallon by its self, i tried to keep several fish with it but all it has done was smile as they dissapeared. If you have any qwuestions i will answer best to my ability.
40 gallon hex
30 lbs of lr
canister filter
protien skimmer (i forget name)
3 inch sandbed
some shrooms
and my feeding habits for it is getting frozen sardins, smelts, krill etc and tie the tail to the lr and let it eat.... if u would like to know anything else i will be more then happy to tell you...... as of right now i bought 4 damsels for it so goodluck and havefun.......
So, what if I get a small frog, and let it grow with the Lion. How big was your frog when you got it? If it is like 2-3 inches, you seriously think that its probable that my lion fish would get swallowed hole (or an attempt would be made resulting in two dead fish). Thats insane (not calling you insane). Not only would my Lion be much bigger than a 2-3 frog (at least twice as big), but then there is all of the poisonous fins. Don't fish know what is poisonous and what is not. My good friend and then a LFS have told me that a frog would "just know" that it could not eat the lion w/o killing itself. Obviously thats a lot to ask a fish to do (cognitively think about the decision that it is about to make), but does that sort of thing happen? How big is your frog now? How big of a Lion would feel comfortable putting there with it?
http:///forum/post/2634601
as of now i have a wartskin angler in a 40 gallon by its self, i tried to keep several fish with it but all it has done was smile as they dissapeared. If you have any qwuestions i will answer best to my ability.
40 gallon hex
30 lbs of lr
canister filter
protien skimmer (i forget name)
3 inch sandbed
some shrooms
and my feeding habits for it is getting frozen sardins, smelts, krill etc and tie the tail to the lr and let it eat.... if u would like to know anything else i will be more then happy to tell you...... as of right now i bought 4 damsels for it so goodluck and havefun.......
So, what if I get a small frog, and let it grow with the Lion. How big was your frog when you got it? If it is like 2-3 inches, you seriously think that its probable that my lion fish would get swallowed hole (or an attempt would be made resulting in two dead fish). Thats insane (not calling you insane). Not only would my Lion be much bigger than a 2-3 frog (at least twice as big), but then there is all of the poisonous fins. Don't fish know what is poisonous and what is not. My good friend and then a LFS have told me that a frog would "just know" that it could not eat the lion w/o killing itself. Obviously thats a lot to ask a fish to do (cognitively think about the decision that it is about to make), but does that sort of thing happen? How big is your frog now? How big of a Lion would feel comfortable putting there with it?