Hippo Disease

zibnata

Member
Is this bad ? It seems to be cracking skin on the face. Also the camera cant pick up what seems to be ich
 

beth

Administrator
Staff member
Hippos seem to commonly have these marks, from what I can tell from the pic, however, it could be the beginnings of HLLE.
Are you treating the ich?
 

elfdoctors

Active Member
HLLE was one of my thoughts too but I didn't feel confident enough to post anything before Beth. I hope for your sake it's only normal markings! You seem to have one thing after another! How's the yellow tang getting along with one eye? Are you sure the other picture (in the fish discussion forum) isn't fin rot instead of aggression from the blue tang? Perhaps you could have Beth take a look at that photo here?
You've got a nice looking hippo. Mine doesn't have yellow side fins, (they're clear). Do you know what types mine and yours would be? Most places seem to use blue, hippo, and regal tang interchangably.
I am almost done with hypo! My salinity is up to 1.021 and the two surviving fish still look great! I hope I have no further diseases as all future fish are going into quarantine!
I plan to have my fish moved on Tuesday and my next SWF order (my first with fish) is already made! I also recently got 40 pounds of live sand from this site and added it to the display tank while the fish were away. The tank water was clear the next morning! Besides two fish, I ordered some cerith snails (to keep the sand clean), a queen conch (I haven't seen the fighting conch since I added the sand), two camelback shrimp and a lettuce nudibranch. I'll have two fish in the display when we have relatives visiting for Christmas. They'll probably think its weird. My wife is convinced that we will not even see the blue tang for several months as it has probably gotten a complex from being in the hypo tank for 5 weeks. Unless we are far away from the tank it is always "hiding" behind the heater (except when it sleeps underneath a piece of PVC pipe. I am planning on getting my wife a digital camera (her idea) for Christmas which she will hopefully share so that I will be able to post pictures on this forum :)
 

zibnata

Member
Thanks Beth and Doc
I started Hypo again and was down to 1.009 as of 11/26.My camera cant pick up the ich.It looks worse now than ever.I also see a couple on the damsels tail also .The YT has definatly been harrased by the Hippo because I was watching it take chunks out of its fins. Yt is not looking good at all.Days are numbered. One eye,color faded and now being eaten by hippo.I dont know what kind of hippo it is but its beautiful and its cost a lot of time,money and patience to keep it alive. I hope all goes well with getting yours in by Christmas.That was my plan because we have people coming over too,but thats not going to happen.
I will post a couple more pics.
Doc, do a lot of research on cameras. A alot of people using this site have great detailed pics like Ryebread,Melody,bang guy,etc.
 

beth

Administrator
Staff member
As for the hippo, it looks fine. Just keep an eye on the area to see if anything actually develops.
As for the YT......is he in a display or do you have the fish in a QT for treatment? Any way that you can separate him so that we can work on saving him??
As for the doctors, you're doing a fine job with taking care of your fish by using QT. When you finish the hypo though, for good measure, you should keep the fish in QT for about 5 more days before return him to the display....however, if you're going to be getting a shipment soon, then, of course, you don't want to put in new fish with the fish you just treated.
 

zibnata

Member
Thanks for the help but unfortunatly the yellow tang died sometime today.It was hanging at the top of the tank this morning and I got home tonight at 9:30 it was dead.I really feel bad because i think its my fault all of these fish died.I would really hate to lose the hippo. Salinity has been at 1.009 for a couple of days and it still looks loaded with ich.I will do some research on HLLE and I will keep you all posted. I really appreciate you guys spending your time trying to help.
 

elfdoctors

Active Member
Beth, I just read your advise to me and questioned the length of time. I will have had my fish in the quarantine tank for 37 days. I had problems with nitrites and lost 4 of 6 fish initially. I also didn't have a refractometer initially so I took a full week to get the salinity down. The ich seemed to clear however once the specific gravity was down to around 1.014 (which was 1.012 with the refractometer). I maintained the 1.009 for 23 days (the two extra days were related to my availability on call when frequent water changes couldn't be done) and raised the salinity up over 7 days. They are doing fine. I had planned on putting the fish in the display tank (which has been fishless the entire time) after the salinity was back up. Did I do something wrong? Are you recommending keeping them in isolation for another 5 days at normal salinity? Why? The ich should be gone and hyposalinity should not have prevented any other diseases from showing up?
I just got an e-mail from swf.com stating my new fish will be arriving tomorrow so I am not sure I can do anything different. For the new arrivals, I had been planning on keeping the new fish in qt for 3 full weeks. I debated doing hyposalinity as a routine. I think that my water changes in the display tank were not done religiously during hypo as I did not have premixed water of two different salinities available. I have the capability of making another qt (10 gallon) if necessary. My family is also impatient about the length of time between new additions and routine hypo would lengthen that. Are you aware of lots of ich in the fish from swf.com?
Zibnata also asked in an older post in the fish section about how would you do qt or hypo for a mandarin as they would need live rock to feed? I don't think that was ever answered but I thought it was a great question.
Zibnata, sorry to hear about your loss. It's got to be frustrating to have loss after loss. I am getting over the loss of my fish primarily by success with the remainder. The display tank has a lot more life and my cyanobacteria is greatly reduced. I actually had to scrape coraline algae off the front of the glass so this seems to be reproducing. (I can see that that is going to be fun? to keep clean as I hadn't cleaned for a few weeks and really had to rub. Hopefully your remaining fish will be healthy. Another painful lesson learned. :(
 

zibnata

Member
The hippo still has ich and its been a week at 1.009. Is this normal ? I use a refractometer and I would rather not use copper if at all possible. I have a big biowhell power filter and I havent changed the filters in a month or so ,should I ? thanks
 

beth

Administrator
Staff member
Does your refract measure salinity as well. Usually on the right side and showing as a whole number. If so, test and see if your water is 14ppt.
 

zibnata

Member
My camera cant pic up the ich. I will try to borrow a friends camera to see if it works. It is still loaded with ich and looks worse. I dont understand it. The damsel doesnt have any on it.
 

zibnata

Member
I dont understand why hypo isnt working.He is scratching against the pipes.I have some coppersafe I will use,but I cant find a copper test kit.Do I need one or should I just follow directions. Also,do I keep water at 1.009 ? Thanks
 

zibnata

Member
How long before you can see the improvement if you add copper. I added coppersafe 3 days ago and it doesnt look any better. Thanks
 

beth

Administrator
Staff member
Can you get a pic up of the "ich" area?
Coppersafe is not the best choice. It is rather harsh. You need to find out what coppersafe's compatible copper test kit and use it to attain theraputic levels of the med.
However, I would like to actually see the problem at this point. Can you post up a pic?
 
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