Ho ho ho! Here comes White Santa Claus!!!

http://www.tvguide.com/News/Megyn-Kelly-Santa-Jesus-Are-White-Video-1074676.aspx
It would be a lot funnier if it wasn't so sad...
 

2quills

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Pretty sad that there was even a discussion about it. Santa is a marketing gimmick. He could be whatever he wants as long as it sells toys lol.
 
I know CNN leans left, and FOX News leans right... but this was over the top, even for them. She should be kicked off the air for a few weeks as a lesson. Although I guess you would have to kick the other three off too, since all they did the whole time was shake their heads in a "yes, you are so right!" kind of way.
 

beth

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Actually, we don't really know what race Jesus was since being a Jew is not a racial designation. I don't think there are any references in religious text about his racial heritage.

Santa Clause on the other hand was Caucasian since he is a fictional character who has always been represented as such. Cinderella is also Caucasian, however, Disney's Princess Tiana from Princess and the Frog is black.
 

reefraff

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I wonder which MSNBC propagandist Kelly is thumping in the ratings that the DNC has sent out it's drones to attack her LOL!
 

flower

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Beth http:///t/396806/ho-ho-ho-here-comes-white-santa-claus#post_3535416
Actually, we don't really know what race Jesus was since being a Jew is not a racial designation. I don't think there are any references in religious text about his racial heritage.

Santa Clause on the other hand was Caucasian since he is a fictional character who has always been represented as such. Cinderella is also Caucasian, however, Disney's Princess Tiana from Princess and the Frog is black.


Song of Solomon/Song of songs 1:5.....I am dark but comely...
Being a Jew in Biblical days was a racial designation. We do indeed know what race Jesus was...He was a Jew from the house of Levi, who's mother married into the house of Judah...simply put...Israeli....he lived in the open areas, he wasn't an African, but he sure wasn't white. The people from that region tan up very dark. The Arian pictures are just that...a fictional picture. I thought everyone knew that...except maybe the goof that is the subject of this thread.

The origins of dear old Santa is messed up too...he was an evil elf, and the legend was used to frighten the children into being good.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krampus
Modern retail stores dreamed up the jolly old elf to boost commerce.
 

beth

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Ok, which race would you throw him into:

Caucasian
Negroid
Mongoloid
Australoid

Race is not about how dark your skin can get in the sun. A Jew from the house of Levi is not a race. Being a Jew is a social, cultural, religious designation, not a racial fact.

Yep, I know that Jesus likely did not look like the representations of him in Renaissance art. LOL
 

2quills

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J.C. sacrificed his flesh for us and it's like all we do is argue over who gets the light and who gets the dark meat. :%%:
 

darthtang aw

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I know CNN leans left, and FOX News leans right... but this was over the top, even for them.  She should be kicked off the air for a few weeks as a lesson.  Although I guess you would have to kick the other three off too, since all they did the whole time was shake their heads in a "yes, you are so right!" kind of way.
I am curious. How come you didn't post anything here about bashir...maybe you missed it? Let me catch you up to speed...
In a November broadcast, after the former governor of Alaska and conservative firebrand compared the nation’s fiscal issues to slavery, Bashir called Palin a “world-class idiot” with a “long-deceased mind” and cited the first person account of a slave overseer named Thomas Thistlewood who described forcing slaves to urinate and defecate in one another’s mouths.
“When Mrs. Palin invokes slavery, she doesn’t just prove her rank ignorance,” Bashir said. “She confirms if anyone truly qualified for a dose of discipline from Thomas Thistlewood, she would be the outstanding candidate.”
I mean, since you are concerned about what insignificant cable news hosts have to say......
 

darthtang aw

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Ok, which race would you throw him into:
Caucasian
Negroid
Mongoloid
Australoid
Race is not about how dark your skin can get in the sun.  A  Jew from the house of Levi is not a race.  Being a Jew is a social, cultural, religious designation, not a racial fact.
Yep, I know that Jesus likely did not look like the representations of him in Renaissance art. LOL
Mongoloid? Did you just say jesus had Down's syndrome?
Darth (yes I am that crass) tang
 

flower

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Beth http:///t/396806/ho-ho-ho-here-comes-white-santa-claus#post_3535431
Ok, which race would you throw him into:

Caucasian
Negroid
Mongoloid
Australoid

Race is not about how dark your skin can get in the sun. A Jew from the house of Levi is not a race. Being a Jew is a social, cultural, religious designation, not a racial fact.

Yep, I know that Jesus likely did not look like the representations of him in Renaissance art. LOL

LOL...Arabic.

Here is another fellows way of explaining it, he may not agree to be called Arabic, but still considers classification of Arabic different then Caucasian:
i am Lebanese my self now i wouldn't not consider my self Caucasian or black our original ethnicity is Phoenician which are also Canaanites. our skin color ranges from a every light ( but still a different white to Europeans) to the very dark and border line black all the color of which i have in members of my family and extended family.
Lebanese "are descended from many different peoples who have occupied, invaded, or settled this corner of the world," making Lebanon, "a mosaic of closely interrelated cultures. quote from Wikipedia.
which is very true to a sense.
as iv been reading a few forum recently many "white" people from the USA and the US government consider some the be Caucasian but other not to be instead consider the Arab/ Asians another classification which many Lebanese including my self do not agree with again. in Australia Lebanese people are consider to be non white and non Caucasian.
well i hope this helped a little bit at least

Okay...here is a quote from Judaism 101
Judaism is not a race because Jews do not share one common ancestry. For instance, Ashkenazi Jews and Sephardic Jews are both "Jewish." However, whereas Ashkenazi Jews often hail from Europe, Sephardic Jews often hail from the Middle East. People of many different races have become Jewish over the centuries.

Back in the days of Jesus (not his real name by the way) ...They did indeed share a common ancestry...being a Jew was a race of people.


LOL....On the Santa Claus issue, since he is supposed to be a jolly old "elf"...a fictional being...he can be a purple people eater, green alien, African, and even Caucasian.
 

beth

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Arabic is not a race, its a language. If you mean someone from the Middle East, then that does not exclude you from the race Caucasian. In fact, many peoples from the Middle East were still Caucasian--that does not mean that they were from European ancestry. While Americans equate Caucasian to be exclusively "Whites" (of European decent), scientifically, that is not the case at all. Jesus was likely Caucasian or maybe if there was some mixing of the races among his ancestors, maybe a combination of Caucasian and Negroid---who knows! Without his dna, we will never know.
 

dragonzim

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Cau·ca·sian (kô-kzhn, -kzhn)
adj.
1.
a. Anthropology Of or being a human racial classification distinguished especially by very light to brown skin pigmentation and straight to wavy or curly hair, and including peoples indigenous to Europe, northern Africa, western Asia, and India. See Usage Note at race1.
b. Of or relating to a racial group having white skin, especially one of European origin; white.
2. Of or relating to the Caucasus region or its peoples, languages, or cultures.
3. Of or relating to a group of three language families spoken in the region of the Caucasus mountains, including Chechen, Abkhaz, and the Kartvelian languages.
n.
1. Anthropology A member of the Caucasian racial classification.
2. A native or inhabitant of the Caucasus.
3. The Caucasian language family.
 

beth

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Originally Posted by DragonZim http:///t/396806/ho-ho-ho-here-comes-white-santa-claus#post_3535460
Cau·ca·sian (kô-kzhn, -kzhn)
adj.
1.
a. Anthropology Of or being a human racial classification distinguished especially by very light to brown skin pigmentation and straight to wavy or curly hair, and including peoples indigenous to Europe, northern Africa, western Asia, and India. See Usage Note at race1.
b. Of or relating to a racial group having white skin, especially one of European origin; white.
2. Of or relating to the Caucasus region or its peoples, languages, or cultures.
3. Of or relating to a group of three language families spoken in the region of the Caucasus mountains, including Chechen, Abkhaz, and the Kartvelian languages.
n.
1. Anthropology A member of the Caucasian racial classification.
2. A native or inhabitant of the Caucasus.
3. The Caucasian language family.
Doesn't clear things up much, does it? LOL
 

phixer

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What defines race? skin color? What if your a mixed bag?

And why do most forms list "white" as a race? White is a color. And who determines this anyhow? And how come you never see any Jewish black folks if Jewish is not a race. I make my own reality so for me Im going to believe Jesus was born tan and stayed that way and that Jewish/Judism is a religion that is predominately white people.
Dont really care what science says since science is wrong more than it is right. All that really matters is what the individual believes since we create our reality and have to live within it.
 
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