fallnhorse
Member
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How do I properly feed my lion fish?
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yimmy
Active Member
Welcome to the boards. I'm new to the hobby to. The Lion will eventually max out at 15inches and out grow the 55gallon. I also read you should feed SW fish SW fish. Because the FW fish don't have the nutrients the SW fish needs. I think silversides would be a good idea though.
aw2
Active Member
First and foremost, your tank is too small for a Volitan.
Feeding should be a few times per week, making sure that the Lion doesnt over eat because it will kill them. Once you ween it to frozen foods, 3 or 4 pieces of said food should be enough, at every feeding.
Guppies and other freshwater fish will kill your Lion, by way of Liver disease. Freshwater feeders should NEVER be fed to saltwater fish.
Silversides are not very nutritional, so that wont help either.
To get your Lion to frozen, it may take a little bit of a "starving". Just refuse to feed him and eventually, he will eat. Start with trying Krill and then move on to other things such as octo, squid, chopped/sliced fresh fish, etc.
Other than that, it's just persistance and patience.
Good luck.
Feeding should be a few times per week, making sure that the Lion doesnt over eat because it will kill them. Once you ween it to frozen foods, 3 or 4 pieces of said food should be enough, at every feeding.
Guppies and other freshwater fish will kill your Lion, by way of Liver disease. Freshwater feeders should NEVER be fed to saltwater fish.
Silversides are not very nutritional, so that wont help either.
To get your Lion to frozen, it may take a little bit of a "starving". Just refuse to feed him and eventually, he will eat. Start with trying Krill and then move on to other things such as octo, squid, chopped/sliced fresh fish, etc.
Other than that, it's just persistance and patience.
Good luck.
whitey
Member
Yeah, your tank is too small, you should get rid of it and since youre new to the boards, I will give you advice. Listen to EVERYTHING AW2 says. He is the smartest kid in the world, and is great at telling you how stupid you are. Every book I read says a 55 will be fine for your Lion. Just don't add too much else to the tank.
fallnhorse
Member
Thanks whitey. i do appreciate that. I just trying to keep to animals in my tank that will scavange and clean it. So i can have at least a lion fish. But if he does get big i'll buy another tank. Good reason to buy one. But i read the same thing too on multple sites. this is the first site i seen said 55 is too small. I had dwarf lion but never had the aclimate well at all. i heard violtian where alot better about that. I tried to read multple books and they all had the violtian was on the begginers fish. I'm not a begginer by no means but if they were on that page i thought i would have some success. I figured this tank would be best cause it's the most estabished one i have. It's been going for two years and have been doing all the maintence cycles. But i do try to listen to all.
aw2
Active Member
Originally Posted by Whitey
Yeah, your tank is too small, you should get rid of it and since youre new to the boards, I will give you advice. Listen to EVERYTHING AW2 says. He is the smartest kid in the world, and is great at telling you how stupid you are. Every book I read says a 55 will be fine for your Lion. Just don't add too much else to the tank.
There's no need for comments like this and if you cant add helpful insight, in these threads, then save face and stop posting because you're only making yourself look like a fool.
fallnhorse is looking for good, sound advice since he is new to the hobby...not stupidity and people saying it's ok to put a fish, that will reach 15" in length, in a 55gal. tank.
fallnhorse...get other peopls opinions before you come to the conclusion. I'd hate to see that fish suffer because you took the advice of an unhelpful person who's only around to post the comments like the one above.
Yeah, your tank is too small, you should get rid of it and since youre new to the boards, I will give you advice. Listen to EVERYTHING AW2 says. He is the smartest kid in the world, and is great at telling you how stupid you are. Every book I read says a 55 will be fine for your Lion. Just don't add too much else to the tank.
There's no need for comments like this and if you cant add helpful insight, in these threads, then save face and stop posting because you're only making yourself look like a fool.
fallnhorse is looking for good, sound advice since he is new to the hobby...not stupidity and people saying it's ok to put a fish, that will reach 15" in length, in a 55gal. tank.
fallnhorse...get other peopls opinions before you come to the conclusion. I'd hate to see that fish suffer because you took the advice of an unhelpful person who's only around to post the comments like the one above.
yimmy
Active Member
i'm going with AW2, the tanks to small...I think that it's fine for now but when it gets to big, you'll have a good excuse. I plan on getting a great white shark for my 90 gal so I can get a 20,000gal tank. JK It will be fine for now but AW2 gives the best advice out of anyone on here for people who keep aggresive fish.
ophiura
Active Member
Ah, your fan club once again AW2 LOL
If you see a lot of fully grown volitan lions, it is pretty obvious it gets too large for a 55g tank.
Sometimes it is difficult to hear the truth about things. We like to be told anything is OK. And for awhile, it may be fine in a 55g tank, especially these really small one's that are being sold now.
But assuming you want your fish to grow, in time, it will be a problem and you should hear that so you can plan for it. And on these boards, you will hear things you don't want to hear. Just the way it works I am afraid. I does not equate to being told you are stupid. However, there are certain people who seem to take it that way.
People are here to help and share opinions, even when people don't agree with them.
I agree with the "starve him a bit" route as well. Don't let the fish train you. Few predators will starve to death out of being stubborn.
Have you had the anemones long? Has it always basically been a "predator" tank?
If you see a lot of fully grown volitan lions, it is pretty obvious it gets too large for a 55g tank.
Sometimes it is difficult to hear the truth about things. We like to be told anything is OK. And for awhile, it may be fine in a 55g tank, especially these really small one's that are being sold now.
But assuming you want your fish to grow, in time, it will be a problem and you should hear that so you can plan for it. And on these boards, you will hear things you don't want to hear. Just the way it works I am afraid. I does not equate to being told you are stupid. However, there are certain people who seem to take it that way.
I agree with the "starve him a bit" route as well. Don't let the fish train you. Few predators will starve to death out of being stubborn.
Have you had the anemones long? Has it always basically been a "predator" tank?
aw2
Active Member
Originally Posted by ophiura
Ah, your fan club once again AW2 LOL
Ya know...what can I say...loved by some, loved by all (that's my motto). Jealousy is a horrible, hateful monster that overcomes the soul and turns the people into morons.
And, ladies and gentleman...another person, here on the boards, that doesnt get enough recognition is Ophiura. Along with that winning personality, she gives some of the best advice I've found anywhere. I'd listen to her over anyone else. Where else are you gonna find someone that can give great advice about predator fish and then turn around and give just as good advice about marine diseases, reef setups and other odd things.
Now, back to your reguarly scheduled program, "Bashing AW2"...
Ah, your fan club once again AW2 LOL
Ya know...what can I say...loved by some, loved by all (that's my motto). Jealousy is a horrible, hateful monster that overcomes the soul and turns the people into morons.
And, ladies and gentleman...another person, here on the boards, that doesnt get enough recognition is Ophiura. Along with that winning personality, she gives some of the best advice I've found anywhere. I'd listen to her over anyone else. Where else are you gonna find someone that can give great advice about predator fish and then turn around and give just as good advice about marine diseases, reef setups and other odd things.
Now, back to your reguarly scheduled program, "Bashing AW2"...
fallnhorse
Member
ok guys thanks for the lecture about nothing i asked about..this is the first and last time i will be here. All i wanted to know is facts about nutritention. All i got was opnion on tank size. All i know is i go by what the vet says but apearently he is wrong. i read the first time and get ok.... my bad. whatever. I just wanted to know about how to properly feed this fellow but i only got 2 relpies out of a half of dozen that had anything to do about it. Please i only want to here relevent information.
bye
bye
aw2
Active Member
No reason to get your underwear in a knot...
Revert back to post #3 and you'll see all the nutritional information you need.
I think your question was answered quite well by myself and Ophiura.
Dont let the misconduct of one member, who rarely ever posts here, to cause you to not come back.
Revert back to post #3 and you'll see all the nutritional information you need.
I think your question was answered quite well by myself and Ophiura.
Dont let the misconduct of one member, who rarely ever posts here, to cause you to not come back.
whitey
Member
Ahh AW, come on now, don't start with the name calling, it just shows how immature you are. I'm no moron, we should clear that up now. I'm just the one that will answer your rude posts with comments. You are so indredibly high on yourself that it's sad. You beleive you are the king of this little message board, but sadly it appears you have no life beyond it.
I will let you have your fun, insulting the intelligence of others so long as you watch your manners. You're just a kid with a fish tank, and little beyond that. You need to feel proud of something. Go on, rule these boards, and continue to belittle the ones who may not have the better fish, but instead, the far better life. Poor thing.
I will let you have your fun, insulting the intelligence of others so long as you watch your manners. You're just a kid with a fish tank, and little beyond that. You need to feel proud of something. Go on, rule these boards, and continue to belittle the ones who may not have the better fish, but instead, the far better life. Poor thing.
aw2
Active Member
Originally Posted by Yimmy
I'm just saying most people say he's full of **** and give him grief. I haven't gotten any advice but to some people they call to him like god.
Jimmy
PS:I'm not apart of the fan club
This post confuses the hell out of me.
And Whitey...here's the deal.
I'm kinda buzzed, right now...been out, drinking with my friends. Living my lonely life, cause I'm "just a kid with a fish tank, and little beyond that".
The way I see it is you dont post here really, other than to follow me around and post negative things about me.
Are you that obsessed with me? I kinda like the fan club though...dont get my wrong.
I'm home, alone tonight...my girlfriend isnt here. Since you seem to like me so much, would it be ok if I emailed you my number. Maybe you could answer the phone and breath heavy on the phone for me or something?...I need some lovin'. I'm know I'm reaching, but it seems that you are so concentrated on me (for whatever reason) that it would be worth a shot...
Wadda ya say? I'm here...waiting...see...
I'm just saying most people say he's full of **** and give him grief. I haven't gotten any advice but to some people they call to him like god.
Jimmy
PS:I'm not apart of the fan club
This post confuses the hell out of me.
And Whitey...here's the deal.
I'm kinda buzzed, right now...been out, drinking with my friends. Living my lonely life, cause I'm "just a kid with a fish tank, and little beyond that".
The way I see it is you dont post here really, other than to follow me around and post negative things about me.
Are you that obsessed with me? I kinda like the fan club though...dont get my wrong.
I'm home, alone tonight...my girlfriend isnt here. Since you seem to like me so much, would it be ok if I emailed you my number. Maybe you could answer the phone and breath heavy on the phone for me or something?...I need some lovin'. I'm know I'm reaching, but it seems that you are so concentrated on me (for whatever reason) that it would be worth a shot...
Wadda ya say? I'm here...waiting...see...
ohioguy06
Member
Originally Posted by AW2
This post confuses the hell out of me.
And Whitey...here's the deal.
I'm kinda buzzed, right now...been out, drinking with my friends. Living my lonely life, cause I'm "just a kid with a fish tank, and little beyond that".
The way I see it is you dont post here really, other than to follow me around and post negative things about me.
Are you that obsessed with me? I kinda like the fan club though...dont get my wrong.
I'm home, alone tonight...my girlfriend isnt here. Since you seem to like me so much, would it be ok if I emailed you my number. Maybe you could answer the phone and breath heavy on the phone for me or something?...I need some lovin'. I'm know I'm reaching, but it seems that you are so concentrated on me (for whatever reason) that it would be worth a shot...
Wadda ya say? I'm here...waiting...see...
Nice rebound aw2.....it was great, my thought is keep giving the advice you give it saves people alot of money and hurt because there fish are sick......And someday when i need advice i will be calling on you.....hmmmm should be shortly.
p.s dont let these people run you off i like havein ya around.
Rich
This post confuses the hell out of me.
And Whitey...here's the deal.
I'm kinda buzzed, right now...been out, drinking with my friends. Living my lonely life, cause I'm "just a kid with a fish tank, and little beyond that".
The way I see it is you dont post here really, other than to follow me around and post negative things about me.
Are you that obsessed with me? I kinda like the fan club though...dont get my wrong.
I'm home, alone tonight...my girlfriend isnt here. Since you seem to like me so much, would it be ok if I emailed you my number. Maybe you could answer the phone and breath heavy on the phone for me or something?...I need some lovin'. I'm know I'm reaching, but it seems that you are so concentrated on me (for whatever reason) that it would be worth a shot...
Wadda ya say? I'm here...waiting...see...
Nice rebound aw2.....it was great, my thought is keep giving the advice you give it saves people alot of money and hurt because there fish are sick......And someday when i need advice i will be calling on you.....hmmmm should be shortly.
p.s dont let these people run you off i like havein ya around.
Rich
redleg
New Member
i agree aw2 ,but yes u could keep a lion fish in your tank for a year or so but u will have to get rid of it sooner or later, i wanted to keep a large angel fish had to start with a 8x2x2 tank .what do aquarist do with fish that outgrow their tanks? chuck them in the ocean i expect as lionfish are seen around u.s.a coast
fallnhorse
Member
Nothing but message board mania here. I would rather take the advice of my vet. Simple facts. This is just one big bs board and i will have to make a marker for my friends not to come here. I wonder how long you people actually been doing this. People who i ask around my area have had salt aquiruims most of thier lives. However i still found different opnions on nutrients. I just wanted to know how to feed him. If i have to i'll take my 125 gallon tank out of storage. Please people for your sake get a life. How old are you?
ayidos
ayidos
danedodger
Member
Wow, you get good advice from two of the best people on this board and you're ready to leave because one person doesn't like the other (if you go to their profiles you can find all posts by them and see what I mean, trustworthy advice from both AW2 and Ophiura)? Some unasked for advice from an old mama (and you know we moms can't resist giving advice! :hilarious ) is lurk around and read more. The great people, inexperienced and very experienced, on this board well outweigh the snerts.
AW2, don't sweat the small stuff! Some people just take some kind of weird, sad pleasure in trying to upset other people. I guess they just crave the attention
If you ignore them they usually go try to find someone else who'll give em what they're looking for.
Feeding: I agree with what's already been said. Just think meat from critters you'd find in the oceans!
As for a volitan in a 55, stocking capacities of aquariums are probably the most debated topic on the boards. I personally really like that this board tends to be a bit conservative on the issue which is better for the fish. It seems to me that 15" is too big for a 55 but the book I generally trust for reliable, quick info on fish says 55 is a minimum for a volitan while it recommends a minimum size much larger for others, notably surgeonfishes, which are the same size fish or even smaller. That just confirms again for me that this book takes into account the swimming habits of these fish as it should be! A 15" volitan, which isn't the most active swimmer, can make do with less room than a 15" tang that is a very active swimmer that needs a lot more room.
AW2, don't sweat the small stuff! Some people just take some kind of weird, sad pleasure in trying to upset other people. I guess they just crave the attention
Feeding: I agree with what's already been said. Just think meat from critters you'd find in the oceans!
As for a volitan in a 55, stocking capacities of aquariums are probably the most debated topic on the boards. I personally really like that this board tends to be a bit conservative on the issue which is better for the fish. It seems to me that 15" is too big for a 55 but the book I generally trust for reliable, quick info on fish says 55 is a minimum for a volitan while it recommends a minimum size much larger for others, notably surgeonfishes, which are the same size fish or even smaller. That just confirms again for me that this book takes into account the swimming habits of these fish as it should be! A 15" volitan, which isn't the most active swimmer, can make do with less room than a 15" tang that is a very active swimmer that needs a lot more room.
whitey
Member
Originally Posted by AW2
And Whitey...here's the deal.
I'm kinda buzzed, right now...been out, drinking with my friends. Living my lonely life, cause I'm "just a kid with a fish tank, and little beyond that".
The way I see it is you dont post here really, other than to follow me around and post negative things about me.
Are you that obsessed with me? I kinda like the fan club though...dont get my wrong.
I'm home, alone tonight...my girlfriend isnt here. Since you seem to like me so much, would it be ok if I emailed you my number. Maybe you could answer the phone and breath heavy on the phone for me or something?...I need some lovin'. I'm know I'm reaching, but it seems that you are so concentrated on me (for whatever reason) that it would be worth a shot...
Wadda ya say? I'm here...waiting...see...
Poor Poor kid. Feel so bad for your sorry little life in Southern Illinois. I would never call, but even if I did, I would have felt bad waking your parents.
I'll quit replying to your moronic arrogant posts. I'll let you have these boards, I know how important the internet forums are to you. I bow to the Fish Dork.
Good day
And Whitey...here's the deal.
I'm kinda buzzed, right now...been out, drinking with my friends. Living my lonely life, cause I'm "just a kid with a fish tank, and little beyond that".
The way I see it is you dont post here really, other than to follow me around and post negative things about me.
Are you that obsessed with me? I kinda like the fan club though...dont get my wrong.
I'm home, alone tonight...my girlfriend isnt here. Since you seem to like me so much, would it be ok if I emailed you my number. Maybe you could answer the phone and breath heavy on the phone for me or something?...I need some lovin'. I'm know I'm reaching, but it seems that you are so concentrated on me (for whatever reason) that it would be worth a shot...
Wadda ya say? I'm here...waiting...see...
Poor Poor kid. Feel so bad for your sorry little life in Southern Illinois. I would never call, but even if I did, I would have felt bad waking your parents.
I'll quit replying to your moronic arrogant posts. I'll let you have these boards, I know how important the internet forums are to you. I bow to the Fish Dork.
Good day