how much is too much

bigfish420

New Member
i have a 46g bowfront with 60lbs of LR and a few coral and inverts and was wondering how many fish i could handle curently i have 6, 3 damsels,kole tang,lunar wrass,and a clown, does this seem like too many or could i get more
 

scotts

Active Member
There is a horrible rule of thumb that states you can have 1" of fish for every 5 gallons of your tank. However there are may factors that this does not take into account. For instance aggresive fish are messy eaters and so you either put less fish in an aggressive tank or more filtration. It also does not take into account what each type of fish eat. Mandarins eat pods and you need a lot of live rock to keep up your suply of pods. ALSO the amount of swimming room each type of fish need. Using the ROT, your tank can hold 9 inches of fish, however you can get one fish taht is 9 inches long, and that fish would be mighty uncomfortable in your tank. One more thing is that the amount of LR in your tank reduces the number of gallons, and the amount of swimming room your fish have.
So what does all this mean to you? Well IMO you are pretty close to being full. In fact I think you might want to take the Kole tang back and get anther show fish. The reason being is that fish can get to 6 inches long, or even bigger. It would be prety incomfortable in a tank your size.
Anyway, welcome to the board.
 

bigfish420

New Member
thanks for you advice, and i would love to get rid of all of my damsels if i could catch the little

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w/o ripping my tank apart, and i agree with the tang but he has lived in the tank for years before i got it and he seems to love it
 

scotts

Active Member
I was thinking about mentioning something about the damels, but didn't want to get too preachy.
 

ophiura

Active Member
The fact that the Kole has not outgrown the tank in years is a sign of a problem in and of itself. I do recommend removing both the tang and absolutely the wrasse. I am surprised the wrasse hasn't freaked out and killed the others by now, actually...if you have not had it long, this is, IMO, the future you have with it. I would remove the wrasse before the tang even. :(
 

scotts

Active Member
Originally Posted by ophiura
http:///forum/post/3119284
The fact that the Kole has not outgrown the tank in years is a sign of a problem in and of itself. I do recommend removing both the tang and absolutely the wrasse. I am surprised the wrasse hasn't freaked out and killed the others by now, actually...if you have not had it long, this is, IMO, the future you have with it. I would remove the wrasse before the tang even. :(
Listen to her, she is a LOT smarter than me about these things. I guess that goes along with having a marine biology degree.
 

ophiura

Active Member
:p
In this regard, the marine bio background is useless, just as much as when an LFS claims such and such "because they are marine biologists." That is textbook learning versus real world.
This one is based on experience...I kep a kole in a 45g for about a year with no growth either so traded him in. I talk about the lunare in the other thread in reefs section. A frightening fish in a small tank.
 

oceansidefish

Active Member
I can second Ophiura's statement on the Lunare....When I was in high school my very unknowing biology teacher brought in a small lunare into our FO I believe 55G setup...By the end of the year it was the only fish left...
 

florida joe

Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by ophiura
http:///forum/post/3119284
The fact that the Kole has not outgrown the tank in years is a sign of a problem in and of itself. I do recommend removing both the tang and absolutely the wrasse. I am surprised the wrasse hasn't freaked out and killed the others by now, actually...if you have not had it long, this is, IMO, the future you have with it. I would remove the wrasse before the tang even. :(
What about adaptation. What if the Koles lack of growth is just it adapting to its environment in an attempt to survive
 
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