How Much Live Brine Should I Add At Once?
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tizzo
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Is it live, as in... you hatched the eggs in your own hatchery? Or is it brine as in... bought from the LFS by the teaspoon?
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tizzo
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Our lfs here sells it for $1.27 per TEASPOON! Needless to say, I do frozen. But if you get it for your fish You can throw in as much as you want, cause if it's live then it will not rot in your tank, and your fish will nip throughout the day. But if you want to save the brine for designated feedings, then I would add tiny bits constantly until they stop the feeding frenzy, and I couldn't tell you exactly how much that would be as far as quantity.
lion_crazz
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If it is possible to wean them off of live brine, do so. Live brine bought from a fish store has no nutrients in it, thus it should be kept just as a treat for your fish. Frozen brine on the other hand is very nutritious and I highly recommend feeding that to the fish. If you do need something live however, buy a container of live black worms. They are more nutritious and your fish will like them probably just as much. I know my fish do.
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tizzo
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Now that's just it... In another thread he asked about his scorpion blenny, and I searched for a LONG time and all I could find about these fish is as follows...
Synchiropus Marmoratus ( AKA-Scorpion blenny, scorpion dragonet, sea scorpion)
Usually will not accept prepared foods or cannot get enough without excessive target feeding.
It's not much, but it's all I could find.
Synchiropus Marmoratus ( AKA-Scorpion blenny, scorpion dragonet, sea scorpion)
Usually will not accept prepared foods or cannot get enough without excessive target feeding.
It's not much, but it's all I could find.
lion_crazz
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Well if that is the case, he may still adapt to live black worms. They still move, so the fish will probably still think it is not something prepared.
Some fish are just stubborn like that. My striped puffer is. He won't take anything unless it is live. The little guy is always showing me that he is hungry, but he won't touch any of the frozen food I put in the tank for the other fish. Instead, he will only eat the worms I put in the tank. He eats the brine that I put in there occasionally too, but I prefer to stay away from this unless it is an emergency or a treat because it does nothing nutrition wise.
Some fish are just stubborn like that. My striped puffer is. He won't take anything unless it is live. The little guy is always showing me that he is hungry, but he won't touch any of the frozen food I put in the tank for the other fish. Instead, he will only eat the worms I put in the tank. He eats the brine that I put in there occasionally too, but I prefer to stay away from this unless it is an emergency or a treat because it does nothing nutrition wise.
lion_crazz
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It depends on what kind of brine you are feeding the fish. If it from a fish store, it is an adult brine shrimp (larger species of brine shrimp.) The only brine shrimp with nutritional value is baby brine shrimp (also called napulii). Baby brine are nutritional to a fish because the newly hatched brine contain a large drop of oil which is highly nutritious. This is rapidly depleted as the shrimp grow, and their nutritional value declines rapidly a few hours after hatching. Thus, when they get to the adult stage, they pretty much have depleted any nutrition that they had.
Frozen is nutritional however because not only is it purified to eliminate any risk of disease transfer, but these frozen food companies have biologists who test products again and again to make the most nutritious formulas possible, enriching each with different ingredients until they find a formula that is most nutritious for fish's health, growth, and coloring.
The only downside in feeding frozen is that frozen will decay in the tank if not eaten or removed, whereas a live food will not.
Frozen is nutritional however because not only is it purified to eliminate any risk of disease transfer, but these frozen food companies have biologists who test products again and again to make the most nutritious formulas possible, enriching each with different ingredients until they find a formula that is most nutritious for fish's health, growth, and coloring.
The only downside in feeding frozen is that frozen will decay in the tank if not eaten or removed, whereas a live food will not.
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crm13
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I thought that I had noticed that frozen brine shrimp (depending on brands) add vitamins and that sort of thing to the product to increase it's nutritional value, or at least they claim to. Never personally tried it. :thinking: I wonder if it's along the same lines as soaking food in vitamin supplements before feeding.
lion_crazz
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Exactly, crm13! Most frozen food companies' biologists test different ingredients and vitamins to determine which is best to use to put the most nutrition in the good.
I know a lot of people who feed their brine shrimp vitamins and such overnight, and then feed them to the fish the next morning. This is much more nutritious than just taking the brine home and feeding it to your fish then and there.
I know a lot of people who feed their brine shrimp vitamins and such overnight, and then feed them to the fish the next morning. This is much more nutritious than just taking the brine home and feeding it to your fish then and there.
sov82
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Thanks...Im going to add a little bit of live brine today...Im guessing its going to be baby brine...I have't seen the scorpion blenny eat yet (had him for 2 days) and I just want to make sure he is eating something. I rarely see him as it is as he has found a home in the inner caves of my rockwork.
nflnutswif
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I buy live brine for my guys about twice a week and drop in just enough for the brine to be devoured in about 3-5 min.
"Tizzo" I pay $1.00 a bag. Never thought of an actual measurement like a teaspoon but your right it does look like maybe a heaping tablespoon of brine! I'm gonna ask how they measure!
My fish think it's candy, even the curlie Q's catch them!
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"Tizzo" I pay $1.00 a bag. Never thought of an actual measurement like a teaspoon but your right it does look like maybe a heaping tablespoon of brine! I'm gonna ask how they measure!
My fish think it's candy, even the curlie Q's catch them!
:happyfish
lion_crazz
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sov82, it's okay to add brine every once and while, but once you see him eat the brine, try other stuff as well, like black worms because the brine you are buying from a pet store or fish store is adult brine, the kind with no nutrition. The only way you are going to get baby brine is if you hatch it yourself.
nflnutswif, most of the places around here measure it in teaspoons as well. That's most likely how your fish store does it too.
nflnutswif, most of the places around here measure it in teaspoons as well. That's most likely how your fish store does it too.
sov82
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ya the wrasse eats frozen as well...its tough with the blenny cuz he is often hard to see. I did see him eating live brine today though. It was rather amusing to watch him pretend he was dead then snap like an aligator on the brine that floated by...even when I fed though, he remained in his rock hide outs.
I have frozen brine, frozen mysis, flakes, and dried algae as well. Im going to try to see if he likes any of that. The wrasse eats frozen brine already...but he doesnt eat as much as I thought he would. I did see him eat a dwarf hermit last night...and he loves playing chicken with my coral banded shrimp lol...I think he thinks that game is funny.
Thanks for the replies.
-Matt
I have frozen brine, frozen mysis, flakes, and dried algae as well. Im going to try to see if he likes any of that. The wrasse eats frozen brine already...but he doesnt eat as much as I thought he would. I did see him eat a dwarf hermit last night...and he loves playing chicken with my coral banded shrimp lol...I think he thinks that game is funny.
Thanks for the replies.
-Matt
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tizzo
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:cheer: :cheer: :cheer:
Yay!!! I am glad he is eating for you!!!
Yay!!! I am glad he is eating for you!!!
lion_crazz
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Yes, absolutely. That is what I do when I buy brine shrimp. When I get adult brine, I feed them phytoplankton, put them in the fridge, and then the next day I normally feed them to the fish.
lion_crazz
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The fridge is where I kept my brine before I got my small 2.5 gallon with the airstone in it. It doesn't really matter though, as long as they have air throughout the night.
As to the salt, most people do about four tablespoons per gallon, or one tablespoon per liter.
As to the salt, most people do about four tablespoons per gallon, or one tablespoon per liter.
lion_crazz
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regular sea salt is fine. I have even seen them hatch using table salt.
Keeping adult brine cold is fine, but baby brine or eggs want to be kept very warm, around 85 if possible.
Keeping adult brine cold is fine, but baby brine or eggs want to be kept very warm, around 85 if possible.