Humu Humu Trigger & Shrimps

[corelockk_jr]

hello, this is my first post and i am new into the hobby

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well first off i started with a 60g, i inserted all theses.
2 peppermint shrimp
1 cleaner shrimp
1 strawberry crab
2 emerald crab
12 hermit crab
1 chocalat chip starfish
2 small clowns
1 big clown
1 week later i added
1 sailfin tang
1 yellow tang
3 green chromis
4 anemones
After that EVERYTHING BUSTED !!!!

everyday i had someting.
starting with Ich and nitrate... it lasted 7-8 days before busting.
Everyday i would loose a fish, starting with the green chromis, then a peppermint shrimp, sailfin, yellow tang... now all i have left is.. 1 fish

1 peppermint shrimp
1 cleaner shrimp
1 strawberry crab
2 emerald crab
12 hermit crab
1 chocalat chip starfish
1 big clown
4 anemones
right now im in a process of starting all over, opening a new 125g without repeating the mistakes.
my question is.. when i transfer all theses in my 125g i was wondering if a Humu Humu Trigger would eat anemones, shrimps and or crabs...
hope to get replys, thanks

 

[mboswell1982]

what kind of lighting do you have on your tank? what kinda filtration? you added wayyyyy tooo many fish that are unsuited for that size tank, wayyyyyyy to quickly. most people will tell you to wait 1-4 weeks between additions, and to only add 1 or 2 fish at a time. also, if you dont have good enough lighting, youve sentenced your anemones to death, your strawberry crab might have to go, but, i dont know too much about them, and what kind of clown fish do you have??

 

[corelockk_jr]

thanks for the quick reply... i had the i cheap lights that came with the 60g but i quickly changed for the metal halide and i have 75lbs of live rock and not too sure about my skimmer as is comes with the 60g the skimmer is in the tank, with slots to seperate the bubbles in the corner...
but i am starting my new 125g this weekend, i just bought some new liverocks 150lbs and a brand new skimmer Octopus BH300F so ill have 225 liverocks full of coraline and monster purple on them....
why does my strawberry carb have to go...
and do humu humu triggers eat anemones, shrimps etc
and for the clown they were the nemo ones, i think its octheris or someting like that...

 

[mboswell1982]

3 clowns in a tank is asking for trouble, a humuhumu in a tank with a clown is asking for trouble, the strawberry crab might be an aggressive type of crab, which is asking for trouble, make sure your tank is fully cycled before you even consider adding any fish to it, an that can take anywhere from 2 weeks to 2 months, depending on the tank
and they're not "nemos", they're clownfish, for the "nemo" type, they could either be percula or ocellaris clowns, an then you have all the different color variants those 2 species of clowns have, such as the onyx percs, b&w ocellaris, picasso's and snowflakes

 

[corelockk_jr]

yep thanks and ill be taking on the advice for the tank and the water cycle for my 125g..
its been 4 weeks already and i havent seen my strawberry only 2-3 times since, always hiding in the back... saw him last week eating my ocellaris clown tho.. other then that i never see him.. and by the way 2 clowns died last week, im left with only 1 fish, the 3rd bigger clown.
but are my shrimps in danger withthe trigger and are my anemones in danger too cause i read they werent reed safe, thats why im a little incertain..

 

[mboswell1982]

if your going to put the clown an the nems in the 125, scratch the trigger off the list, they are probably the least agressive of all the triggers, but they're still agressive, more so than you want in a reef tank

 

[snakeblitz33]

wow, Boswell, take it easy on the poor guy. lol
Core, do you know anything about the Nitrogen Cycle? Live rock has to "cure," meaning that die off from the rock creates ammonia in the tank. The ammonia is then converted into nitrite by bacteria and then into nitrate by another bacteria.
I suggest you do some research before you start this tank up, and be more patient about adding live stock. Adding too many fish or inverts spikes the ammonia levels and kills everything off.

 

[snakeblitz33]

By the way, triggers will eat hermits and snails. I personaly don't like triggers.

 

[nicetry]

Originally Posted by mboswell1982
http:///forum/post/2913166
they are probably the least agressive of all the triggers
Really inaccurate info. Members of this genus are among the more aggressive triggers
Originally Posted by SnakeBlitz33
http:///forum/post/2913187
I suggest you do some research before you start this tank up, and be more patient about adding live stock.
Good advice. Don't be in a rush to set up this 125. Learn from the mistakes you made with the first tank.
Originally Posted by SnakeBlitz33
http:///forum/post/2913188
By the way, triggers will eat hermits and snails. I personaly don't like triggers.
This type of trigger is not suited to a community tank. Great fish with the right tank mates but not with smaller, peaceful fish or many inverts. Decide what type of system you want and then research what you plan to put in it.

 

[corelockk_jr]

im all mixed up here... some say they are the least aggressive and some say they are in the most aggressive...
Quote saltwaterfish.com ``These fish are one of the lesser aggressive Triggers and do well in a community aquarium. ``
Care Level: Easy
Temperament: Semi-Aggressive
Reef Safe: No
they are not reef safe... is that true.. some say they will eat hermits and snails... what about the shrimps.

 

[spanko]

This from fish base
Commonly found in subtidal reef flats and shallow protected lagoons. Benthopelagic. Juveniles secretive with rubble patches, adults swim about openly but are usually shy. Territorial. Feed on algae, detritus, mollusks, crustaceans, worms, sea urchins, fishes, corals, tunicates, forams, and eggs

 

[corelockk_jr]

well i inserted my trigger into the aquarium and 3 days later i tried putting the cleaner shrimp into the tank (because i already had it and didnt have a place or him else where) so the cleaner shrimp didnt even have 2 seconds and did not even touch the bottom that the trigger went right at him trying to eat em...
i quickly tried to get my net to get the shrimp into the net back again and this took atleast 10 seconds the shrimp had already lost an antenna and he was so scared....
luckaly i got hold of the shrimp and put him back in a bucket...
So my trigger actually eats shrimps!

 

[pcollins249]

sometimes you can get lucky with certain triggers. i have some herm crabs and sal lightfoot. i would love to get a humma but i know he will destroy them. i got a niger trigger instead of humma. he doesnt mess with them. its kinda 50/50 on niger if ya ask me. im going to take my chances in about a month with a humma. so cool to watch swim back and forth all day.

 

[jdl]

Originally Posted by corelockk_jr
http:///forum/post/2924133
well i inserted my trigger into the aquarium and 3 days later i tried putting the cleaner shrimp into the tank (because i already had it and didnt have a place or him else where) so the cleaner shrimp didnt even have 2 seconds and did not even touch the bottom that the trigger went right at him trying to eat em...
i quickly tried to get my net to get the shrimp into the net back again and this took atleast 10 seconds the shrimp had already lost an antenna and he was so scared....
luckaly i got hold of the shrimp and put him back in a bucket...
So my trigger actually eats shrimps!

if you want a trigger that is less likely to eat your inverts, get a redtail. They will cost you $140+ but they are fantastic fish.
You could also try the cheaper blue throat.

 

[srfisher17]

Almost all triggers will eat almost any shrimp;, almost all of the time. Expecting otherwise is ignoring the genetic make-up of the fish. I know there are success stories (usually short-term); but IMO & IME; they are the rare exception. Red Tail (sargassum) triggers are open ocean fish that hang around floating mats of sargassum weed and feed on any shrimp, fish, crab, etc., that that lives in sargassum.Mine would eat a live shrimp as soon as it hit the water. They are good with most corals, though. Also, SWF.C is wrong. Humas are certainly aggressive triggers.

 

[usirchchris]

Originally Posted by corelockk_jr
http:///forum/post/2924133
So my trigger actually eats shrimps!

...this was a surprise?? You must research grasshoppa', or I fear it will be a long bumpy road...and you will grow to resent your new expensive hobby.

 

[crypt keeper]

Originally Posted by corelockk_jr
http:///forum/post/2913757
im all mixed up here... some say they are the least aggressive and some say they are in the most aggressive...
Quote saltwaterfish.com ``These fish are one of the lesser aggressive Triggers and do well in a community aquarium. ``
Care Level: Easy
Temperament: Semi-Aggressive
Reef Safe: No
they are not reef safe... is that true.. some say they will eat hermits and snails... what about the shrimps.
I have 3 triggers. Before I got my niger and blue throat I had just a humu humu. With just the humu humu I have a grave yard of shells from my cuc. Does that answer your questions.
next time you want a faster answer on a trigger post in the correct section.

 

[crypt keeper]

Originally Posted by corelockk_jr
http:///forum/post/2924133
well i inserted my trigger into the aquarium and 3 days later i tried putting the cleaner shrimp into the tank (because i already had it and didnt have a place or him else where) so the cleaner shrimp didnt even have 2 seconds and did not even touch the bottom that the trigger went right at him trying to eat em...
i quickly tried to get my net to get the shrimp into the net back again and this took atleast 10 seconds the shrimp had already lost an antenna and he was so scared....
luckaly i got hold of the shrimp and put him back in a bucket...
So my trigger actually eats shrimps!

man I hate to laugh but that was funny as hell to picture.

 

[small triggers]

i had a cleaner shrimp in my tank for over month before i added my first trigger. it only took him 2 months to find it and eat it,,, they LOVE hermits, snails and especially shrimp,, multiples. My picasso is 'less aggressive' than say my niger, but i would still never put him in with smaller fish.

 

[sean48183]

I have had 10" huma's attack me in hawaii. Very aggressive and will eat all crustaceans. Next time your in a lfs stick your face up against the glass with a huma in it and see what happens. When a fish is smashing its face in the glass to get at your be afraid, be very afraid. Coral safe just epoxy down all frags or they will be moved so they can see what might be underneath.