I couldnt believe what i saw

entice59

Active Member
A blue ring octpus at the lfs!!!!! for 20 dollars you can risk death. next to the price says "deadly poison". They are the size of a dime and i guess if you can risk getting injured or killed cleaning the powerhead.
 
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newreefers

Guest
the really sad thing is that someone will buy the thing and die from handling it. it should be illegal to sell them.:mad:
 

entice59

Active Member
thats what i thought!!!! they sell a lot of things that usually die off, medusa worms, horseshoecrabs, they had 2 HUGE seaapples, a lot of nudibranches and cukes, and an octupus in a 1 gallon size box =(
 

entice59

Active Member
i usually see them in a tank in a 5 gallon box but thats crazy just putting them into a one gallon...
Oh just today they had a jellyfish, it was huge, size of the tennisball and it was blue, Not an upside down jellyfish. When i turned over, it was gone, i hope someone knew what they were getting themselves into.
 

entice59

Active Member
People have died by just stepping on a blue ring by accident in shallow beaches. thats just scarey, i wouldnt put my hand in the same tank as teh blue rings even though they were sealed in boxes. They can camoflouge with their surroundings, pretty well i might add....
 
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thomas712

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A quote from an English cephlapod friend on another forum.
"Even more than the venom problem, they have a very high mortality rate 90% during transit and nauturally only live for 6 months to 12 months depending on species. When you consider that almost all sold are sold as adults you may have the animal for 2 weeks then it dies od old age. A waste of time, money and of course the animal's life.
I urge everyone to not buy a blue ring octopus even if they do look cool. And not to support their collection from the wild"
Thomas
 

entice59

Active Member
dont forget adding endangered sea-turtles into our reefs because its "cool" to have something the planet wont have in a few years... if people just stick with legal animals, this wouldnt be a major problem
 

flamingkingofhe

Active Member
i am sorry but those of you who say that you dont believe that the lfs shold be able to sell things like this i disaggre with i think the lfs should be able to order and sell anything the customer would like to order the solution to this problem is requireing people to have a license to keep and care for these things in there tank or anything elese poisonious to humans they are still just a nother living creature on this earth and deserve respect like anything elese
 

casey

Member
that is the coolest thing i have ever seen. I would love to get one but when I red up on it I really saw how deadly it really was. God, this thing has some lethal bite.
 

grouperhead

Active Member
The venom, not poison, the bluering carries is a very potent tetrodotoxin which causes paralysis. They only grow to be about 6", so actually they could be kept in a 10g tank. If you know what you are doing, I really see no harm in keeping them. They aren't just going to go crazy and bite you. They are shy and reclusive, prefering to stay under coral heads and in caves.
People have died by just stepping on a blue ring by accident in shallow beaches.
No they haven't. You don't die just from stepping on them. They have to bite you with their beak. They are native to Austrailia, the country with the best venom banks in the world, so deaths there now aren't nearly as common as they once were. Box jellyfish pose much more of a threat. Bo
 

entice59

Active Member

No they haven't. You don't die just from stepping on them. They have to bite you with their beak. They are native to Austrailia, the country with the best venom banks in the world, so deaths there now aren't nearly as common as they once were. Box jellyfish pose much more of a threat. Bo [/B]
thats what they said when i watched the discovery chanel :D
 

snowbear

Member

Originally posted by Lebowski
None of those types of animals should be kept period. They aren't pets, they are better left alone in the sea. Either way if someone agreed to buy one, it would die anyways, either from lack of space, water quality or you name it whatever.
They shouldn't be kept period.

I've only been a member here for a few months (and a lurker before that), but I have read SO many posts about people losing starfish, corals, anemones, clams, snails, tangs, angels, puffers, clowns, seahorses, etc... due to lack of education/research, starvation, "from lack of space, poor water quality or you name it whatever."
Just to "stir the pot" - why is this any different from keeping any of the other sea animals mentioned?
 
I bet if you ate a lionfish you'd die. Or how about if you drove a car full of flamable liquid...............oh yeah.........we do
 
The scary thing is that the blue-ring could bite you without you necessarily being able to feel it. You might never even realize what was happening to you...
 
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celticsun

Guest
Hello all you octofolks,
Some of you seem to know something about these wonderous critters, I personally love the octopi. I have had 1rst hand experiences working with the larger Giant Pacific Octopus. Its a wonderous feeling when they suck onto you in a blink of an eye,2 arms on my left arm, 3 arms on my right arm, 2 arms holding onto the aquariums exhibit tank and 1 arm feeding itself, while I gave it food. This octopus was about 12ft. to 14ft long, some of his suction cups were about 2" in dia. before he died of old age this past june. He had the strength to pull me into the exhibit and keep me there. When dealing with the larger octopi you need to use full strength to remove it from you but the littleir guy if you use full strength you will physicaly remove its arms from his littler body. I also know how to keep them from escaping if any of you want one.
I have heard horror stories of guests who tell me one escaped from their home tank and dear old dad reached down and picked one up by its head and tossed it back into their tank....no he didnt die. Water quality is a must for them if they ink any octopi can die from that filtration is a Must needed thing, feedin the lil octopi use ghost shrimp live, they will eat your other tanks mates too. depending on the size I feed our octopus 3 squid and or a couple 9" long fish fillets (non breaded) lol.
In order to get bit by a octopus you need to do stupids things like tease it, poke it with a stick...basically provoke in anyway and I hope you do get bit. The blue ring toxin does a wonderful thing to the body (your body) in a nut shell: you cant talk or move your head or arms to communicate to the people who need to treat you. So people who see you lying their think OH MY GOD HE HAD A HEART ATTACK! or some other medical issue.
All Octopi have some sort of venom tucked away inside the glands right next to their beak. So you just got to ask yourself do you really want one? Any type of Octopi? The possibility of you dieing from one is very tiny...but its always there.
As for the comment I bet you would die if you ate a lionfish...yeah probably but your just as stupid to keep a lion fish. They too have the kind of venom which if your allergic to bee stings to kill you as well. There are tons of little and large sea critters out there for anyone to get, I would say have of them have some sort of venom hidden away. The Fox Face rabbit fish is venumous so are all the lion fishes, stone fish is considerd deadly. I feed ours at work...he is boring fish cant swim for anything. Just do all the research you can before buying your next big exotic purchase... you need to know everything before making the move on it.
celticsun:D
So just so you know, I work at Colorados Ocean Journey
 
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celticsun

Guest
Hey guys,
It was fun typin it......I do have a video of me and the octopi, he had the upper 8 arm hand on me for 45 seconds just minutes before we opened for the day. My wife wants me to send the video in to Americas Funniest Videos, I'm sure not to many have seen what happens when the octopi becomes overly aggressive.:rolleyes:
Talk to you all later,
celticsun:D
 
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