I just killed my anenome!!! Instantly

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summerdaze

Guest
Please dont bash me! Im so upset. I have been medicating my fish food with paraguard for prevention of ick etc. (my lfs said its safe) A few pieces of the food fell on the anenome and it melted away instantly. Im so sad! My clown that was always in this anenome got stuck behind my powerhead today and is now about dead. this is so sad. Is there a trick so that fish dont get stuck behind the powerhead? please advise, thanks
 

michaeltx

Moderator
Sorry for the lose.
First its probably to late for the anemone but always come here and ask about what an LFS tell you something like this can happen so get more feed back from people that have tanks on best approach.
as far as something to keep fish away from the powerhead they make foam sleeves or plastic gaurds to over the intake. and next id to make sure the powerhead is secure so it doesnt move.
I am not familiar with the product you said you used does it have an ingredient list on it. or any caution statements?
again sorry about the lose.
Mike
 
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summerdaze

Guest
thanks the clown got stuck between the glass and powerhead where the suction cups are. Is there something to help prevent this? I do already have a cover over the intake of the powerhead, thank you again
 

michaeltx

Moderator
this is what I could find about paragaurd. so maybe someone can read through and see but what is dark red on there would throw red flags up for me not to use it.
again sorry for the lose.
Mike
ParaGuard™ Support
Q: How do you maintain 12 ppm aldehyde?
A: Treat for 2 days, then skip a day, then treat for 2 days again. This should keep you in the 12 ppm range.
Q: Is ParaGuard™ safe for use in marine reef tanks with invertebrates and soft corals?
A: We do not sell or market ParaGuard as invert safe because it would be impossible to test it with every available invert under every potential water parameter. We have had people use it with invertabrates with no problems, but we have also had people encounter problems. If you decide to use it we stress caution; dose at 1/4 to 1/2 dose and observe how your inverts and soft corals react. If they seem to tolerate the dosing, increase slowly up to no more than the prescribed dose as long as they are tolerating it. If you need to get rid of the ParaGuard™ quickly, just turn your skimmer back on.
Q: I was wondering if there was copper in Paraguard. I have a few hermit crabs in the tank, that I would prefer not to kill, and removing the affected fish is not an option in this case.
A: no, there is no copper in ParaGuard
Q: Is it save to use ParaGuard in Planted aquarium? Can my plants survive ?
A: We do not sell or market ParaGuard as invert/plant safe because it would be impossible to test it with every available invert/plant under every potential water parameter. It has been my personal experience that it is generally safe to use in planted aquaria and would not hesitate to do so.
ParaGuard™ is the only fish and filter safe aldehyde based (10% by weight) parasite control product available. Unlike highly toxic and difficult to use formalin based medications, ParaGuard™ contains no formaldehyde or methanol and will not alter pH. ParaGuard™ employs a proprietary, synergistic blend of aldehydes, malachite green, and fish protective polymers that effectively and efficiently eradicates many ectoparasites (e.g. ich, etc.) and external fungal/bacterial/viral lesions (e.g., fin rot). It is particularly useful in hospital and receiving tanks for new fish and whenever new fish are introduced to a community tank.
DIRECTIONS: In the aquarium, use 5 mL (1 capful) to every 40 L (10 gallons*). Repeat daily as required as long as fish show no stress. For 1 hour dips, use 3 mL per 4 L (1 gallon*). Dips may be extended if fish show no evidence of stress.
 

michaeltx

Moderator
I dont use the suction cups in a salt tank in my experience they dont last long because of ozone and tend to let go easily. I would try a different method of attaching them to the tank.
Mike
 
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summerdaze

Guest
thank you for the info,seems like there is never enough info on the labels. So sad the lfs said it is fine to put in the food which I have been doing for a while. If only I would have put it in the tank just a little further away.
 

michaeltx

Moderator
I dont think it was ever labeled or supposed to be suggested to be used as a food additive. I would be very cautious of anything the LFS that told you that has to say about anything from now on.
Mike
 
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summerdaze

Guest
Omg! The color is coming back to greyish instead of the green and its starting to move and stand up, keep your fingers crossed that it isnt dead after all
 

hot883

Active Member
Originally Posted by summerdaze
Omg! The color is coming back to greyish instead of the green and its starting to move and stand up, keep your fingers crossed that it isnt dead after all
If it is dead it will dissenigrate. Touch it and it goes into a million little pieces. Then it's dead. Is the food still on it? I would do a water change as soon as you can. Mix water tonight and change tomorrow. Just my $.02
 

1journeyman

Active Member
Your LFS, like many, employ idiots... Take the medicine back, demand your money back on it and anything it kills.
According to Paraguards webpage it contains Malachite Green as an ingredient. Malachite Green is toxic to inverts, as well as it likes to stain everything it comes into contact with. If you read the webpage they state TWICE that they do not recommend it for Reef Tanks.
I didn't read the whole page, but I don't think it was meant to dose with food either...
 

lion_crazz

Active Member
No, Paraguard is definitely not a food soak. It is definitely not reef-safe. I was told this directly from a SeaChem representative I spoke with.
I would be upset with your LFS, if I were you.
I am very sorry to hear about your problems. Next time, you just know to get second opinions on advice being given to you.
 

snapperboy

Member
have you had an ick problem or are you paranoidly adding medications for no reason? you should just use garlic to help boost your fishes' immune system.
 
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summerdaze

Guest
thanks for the info, just wanted to let everyone know that the anenome is doing GREAT! thanks again
 

scsinet

Active Member
I'm glad it's doing better. As I started reading through this I was hoping you hadn't pulled him out because what happend shouldn't have killed it.
Paraguard in the dose the anemone got shouldn't kill him, but I'd stop using it as a food additive immediately. It's not medication, it's chemical treatment/dip, and building levels of it will detriment a reef tank. If you want to use it, dose up to twice the recommended dosage into the acclimation bucket of new fish no more than one hour before introducing it. It's a fairly effective when used this way. Be sure to not place any of the dip water into the main tank.
One other thing about paraguard... people often reach for it when ich hits, along with a lot of other treatments. Don't EVER use paraguard with copper. Ever.
 
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