i just put live fish in my tank to cycle
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lionfish28
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those are damsels.And they can live in worst water conditing
If you want you can buy a protein skimmer now
If you want you can buy a protein skimmer now
texasranchers
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beautful, did you consider cycling with live rock and a HEB dinner shrimp?
beautful
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Originally posted by lionfish28
those are damsels.And they can live in worst water conditing
If you want you can buy a protein skimmer now
yes that's the name of the fish damsels one is black with white dot and other one is blue
i do have live rock only 5lbs but i get some more later
would they die?
i have to wait to next monday for skimmer would they die?
beautful
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Originally posted by Texasranchers
beautful, did you consider cycling with live rock and a HEB dinner shrimp?
dinner shrimp? i did put jumbo raw shrimp in there but LFS tell me best to remove it so i brought a fish
how much dinner shrimp cost? would they get a long with clown fish?////////// that's with i want when tank cycle
chandler04
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Dinner shrimp, as in cocktail shrimp, raw frozen shrimp. If I am correct, then that is what yer talking about, and yea, they will get along, cuz the shrimp is frozen:hilarious. Those darn LFS, they just want yer money. Umm, did u at least buy live sand? That always helps ya know. In fact, email me, I got a lot of stuff that I can tell you. Ive been in yer position, and I know wat to do, lol. Chandler044@aol.com
wakeskater
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i agree with Texasranchers i would have started out with something like a shrimp so if it dies it will spike your ammonia and you can add a skimmer when ever you want it will only help the tank and the cycle
nflnutswif
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Originally posted by beautful
dinner shrimp? i did put jumbo raw shrimp in there but LFS tell me best to remove it so i brought a fish
how much dinner shrimp cost? would they get a long with clown fish?////////// that's with i want when tank cycle
Oh Man, Beautful, I'm I understanding that you believe HEB dinner shrimp to be a REAL LIVE shrimp??????
A Damsel will live through your cycle process, But could be aggressive w/ your new Clown when you add it later (after cycling) But I have a damsel and 2 clowns, that are fine together.
Good Luck, and read carefully
:happyfish
texasranchers
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Beautful, I will clarify better next time. Yes, it is a dead, frozen shrimp and a bag or box cost very little.
As in the earlier posts, damsels usually make it through a cycle but the trick is trying to catch them and get them out of your tank.
That said, we have always had damsels, some have the personality for a great aquarium fish. Some others have been spending most of their time in my 'time out' tanks.
We have a Blue Velvet Damsel, named Bobby Venton, A yellow tail, named Yellow Tail, and of course my maroon clownfish, named Clown and is part of the damsel family.
Along with them, we have a yellow tang, lawnmower blenny, cucmber, chocolate chip star, red leg hermit crabs, (snail,asst), and corals.
As in the earlier posts, damsels usually make it through a cycle but the trick is trying to catch them and get them out of your tank.
That said, we have always had damsels, some have the personality for a great aquarium fish. Some others have been spending most of their time in my 'time out' tanks.
We have a Blue Velvet Damsel, named Bobby Venton, A yellow tail, named Yellow Tail, and of course my maroon clownfish, named Clown and is part of the damsel family.
Along with them, we have a yellow tang, lawnmower blenny, cucmber, chocolate chip star, red leg hermit crabs, (snail,asst), and corals.
beautful
Member
Originally posted by Texasranchers
Beautful, I will clarify better next time. Yes, it is a dead, frozen shrimp and a bag or box cost very little.
As in the earlier posts, damsels usually make it through a cycle but the trick is trying to catch them and get them out of your tank.
That said, we have always had damsels, some have the personality for a great aquarium fish. Some others have been spending most of their time in my 'time out' tanks.
We have a Blue Velvet Damsel, named Bobby Venton, A yellow tail, named Yellow Tail, and of course my maroon clownfish, named Clown and is part of the damsel family.
Along with them, we have a yellow tang, lawnmower blenny, cucmber, chocolate chip star, red leg hermit crabs, (snail,asst), and corals.
today test :nervous:
ph-7.7
ammonia - 0.25
nitrite - 0.3
have 1. blue velvet damsel
1.domino damsel
5lbs live rock
beautful
Member
Originally posted by Sly
Unless it's your camera, your water looks a little hazy. A good skimmer would help to clear that up. It's never a bad time to add a skimmer.
You will definitely need more LR. :yes:
it's not the camera it's the tank i try to clean it but comes right back up
i will have skimmer next week iam buying from some one so next week for sure:yes: thanks so much for helping me reading is good and you people are very helpful. oh i brought 5lbs live rock and i will get some more later time i know i need skimmer and lighting for my tank after that then i get some more rock i need Money my husben start geting mad at me
one day iam going to open salter fish store MONEY!!!!!
fshhub
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slow down. everybody just slow down.
a skimmer could be added now, but i dont untilt he cycle is complete. however, i do not cycle with live fish.
LFS, a good source of supplies. HOWEVER they are NOT a good source of supplies. listen to what they tell you here first, everyone is here because we want to be and we help because we want to help. NOT because we make money. Most lfs's dont know thier eyeball from a camel back shrimp, when it comes to info they lack ALOT. and dont buyt he story that they have been in business for 236 years. that dont mean squat! most still dont know, even though their advice may sound logical or even real.
IF you feel best listening to them instead of us, go ahead. However i would start with their advice and save some money. there really is not any good reason for you to start by doing what we say then switching ot their advice. all you do that way is waste your time(and ours) and your money by doing it twice.
the haziness os probably form the sand that was added a couple of days ago. it will subside
the skimmer can be put on now, but i wouldnt. hwever with live animals in it, you may be better off turnign it own now.
the PH is low, work on getting it up a bit
slow down and research
and mostly do NOT take your lfs's advice as gospel truth
HTH and
good luck
a skimmer could be added now, but i dont untilt he cycle is complete. however, i do not cycle with live fish.
LFS, a good source of supplies. HOWEVER they are NOT a good source of supplies. listen to what they tell you here first, everyone is here because we want to be and we help because we want to help. NOT because we make money. Most lfs's dont know thier eyeball from a camel back shrimp, when it comes to info they lack ALOT. and dont buyt he story that they have been in business for 236 years. that dont mean squat! most still dont know, even though their advice may sound logical or even real.
IF you feel best listening to them instead of us, go ahead. However i would start with their advice and save some money. there really is not any good reason for you to start by doing what we say then switching ot their advice. all you do that way is waste your time(and ours) and your money by doing it twice.
the haziness os probably form the sand that was added a couple of days ago. it will subside
the skimmer can be put on now, but i wouldnt. hwever with live animals in it, you may be better off turnign it own now.
the PH is low, work on getting it up a bit
slow down and research
and mostly do NOT take your lfs's advice as gospel truth
HTH and
good luck
beautful
Member
iam sorry i was puting worng info
ph 7.7
ammonia 0mg
nitrite <03mg
this been same for 2 weeks i dont understan? ? ?
is it because f/w first? then change to s/w ?
is it my tank cycleing?
fish is doing find in my tank but i dont understan what's going on
oh iam a she not he thank you:yes:
give me some help please i listen to you
reson why i brought fish because was pretty and what lfs say
ph 7.7
ammonia 0mg
nitrite <03mg
this been same for 2 weeks i dont understan? ? ?
is it because f/w first? then change to s/w ?
is it my tank cycleing?
fish is doing find in my tank but i dont understan what's going on
oh iam a she not he thank you:yes:
give me some help please i listen to you
reson why i brought fish because was pretty and what lfs say
sly
Active Member
Now that you are running salt water, is anything else in there that was in there when you had fresh water? Like sand or rocks?
You may not have enough air in your system. I looked at your system again and it doesn't look like you have any air stones. Until you get a skimmer, you need air stones to saturate your water with oxygen. If you put on a skimmer then you won't need the stones. If you don't have enough air in the water then your specifig gravity will read low. Once you raise the air in the system, your SG will raise up too. Before you add salt (if you need it) make sure you take care of the air problem.
Once you get your air and SG correct, then you need to check the hardness of your water. If your hardness is too low, that could cause your pH to be low. I use an additive called Kent Tech CB to control my water hardness. This is a two bottle formula that you mix to add calcium and minerals to the water to help with the buffering. Adding this will raise your pH up to 8.3 where it should be. When I mix up fresh sea water, my pH is always low until I add the Kent formula.
This all takes time, patience, and bunches of money. Take your time. It was over a month after I set up my tank until I put some fish in it and even then they were just damsels. I've had mine set up for 2 years and am just now getting to the point to where I want to put corals in it (although this is longer than is needed).
Get all of your water tests in check (temp 76-80, SG 1.023, pH 8.3, lots of air) then wait for your cycle to finish. Add more LR as soon as you can and even add dead regular decorative rock. This is cheaper than LR and after a few months with LR in the tank, your decorative rock will become living too. I can't tell the difference between the LR and the dead rock in my tank now. Now it's all living, and it helps to filter the water.
You should see a rise in ammonia, followed by Nitrite, then finally Nitrate. Once your ammonia and Nitrite fall naturally, then you can considered your tank established and ready for more fish. Let your Nitrate level be an indication of a water change. Once your Nitrate starts showing up, change your water, but only after the cycle has completed.
Add a skimmer anytime you can. The sooner the better. You can feed ozone into the skimmer also and this will make your water COMPLETELY crystal clear. I use ozone and I have a thread discussing it if you want more info.
Always add just a few fish at a time and keep a good watch on your levels when you do. If you see a rise in ammonia or nitrite and it doesn't fall shortly after adding your new fish, then you have too many fish for your filter. Either get rid of some of them or upgrade your filter system to something like a sump wet/dry system or a refugium. When you add fish, wait for your levels to normalize before you add anything else.
Later, add some shrimp and snails or hermit crabs to keep your sand bed clean and your algae under control.
:joy:
:happyfish :happyfish
You may not have enough air in your system. I looked at your system again and it doesn't look like you have any air stones. Until you get a skimmer, you need air stones to saturate your water with oxygen. If you put on a skimmer then you won't need the stones. If you don't have enough air in the water then your specifig gravity will read low. Once you raise the air in the system, your SG will raise up too. Before you add salt (if you need it) make sure you take care of the air problem.
Once you get your air and SG correct, then you need to check the hardness of your water. If your hardness is too low, that could cause your pH to be low. I use an additive called Kent Tech CB to control my water hardness. This is a two bottle formula that you mix to add calcium and minerals to the water to help with the buffering. Adding this will raise your pH up to 8.3 where it should be. When I mix up fresh sea water, my pH is always low until I add the Kent formula.
This all takes time, patience, and bunches of money. Take your time. It was over a month after I set up my tank until I put some fish in it and even then they were just damsels. I've had mine set up for 2 years and am just now getting to the point to where I want to put corals in it (although this is longer than is needed).
Get all of your water tests in check (temp 76-80, SG 1.023, pH 8.3, lots of air) then wait for your cycle to finish. Add more LR as soon as you can and even add dead regular decorative rock. This is cheaper than LR and after a few months with LR in the tank, your decorative rock will become living too. I can't tell the difference between the LR and the dead rock in my tank now. Now it's all living, and it helps to filter the water.
You should see a rise in ammonia, followed by Nitrite, then finally Nitrate. Once your ammonia and Nitrite fall naturally, then you can considered your tank established and ready for more fish. Let your Nitrate level be an indication of a water change. Once your Nitrate starts showing up, change your water, but only after the cycle has completed.
Add a skimmer anytime you can. The sooner the better. You can feed ozone into the skimmer also and this will make your water COMPLETELY crystal clear. I use ozone and I have a thread discussing it if you want more info.
Always add just a few fish at a time and keep a good watch on your levels when you do. If you see a rise in ammonia or nitrite and it doesn't fall shortly after adding your new fish, then you have too many fish for your filter. Either get rid of some of them or upgrade your filter system to something like a sump wet/dry system or a refugium. When you add fish, wait for your levels to normalize before you add anything else.
Later, add some shrimp and snails or hermit crabs to keep your sand bed clean and your algae under control.
:happyfish :happyfish
sly
Active Member
Here's a pic of my tank. I started with two peices of LR and the rest was dead. Now it's all living and covered with coraline algae.
I only have two fish in there right now. I had more but I made the mistake of putting too many in at the same time. I came back from Hawaii and I bought some fish there. I had 3 wrasses, a big-eyed squirrel fish, coral beauty, and yellow tang and they all died.
I had too many nitrates in my sytem and they couldn't take it. I did a major water change and started doing better maintainance on my tank and now I got everything under control. It took me learning the hard way I guess. :sleepy:
Now all my water paremeters are perfect and I just added some mangroves underneath in a refugium. Now it's time to do it right... :yes:
I only have two fish in there right now. I had more but I made the mistake of putting too many in at the same time. I came back from Hawaii and I bought some fish there. I had 3 wrasses, a big-eyed squirrel fish, coral beauty, and yellow tang and they all died.
I had too many nitrates in my sytem and they couldn't take it. I did a major water change and started doing better maintainance on my tank and now I got everything under control. It took me learning the hard way I guess. :sleepy:
Now all my water paremeters are perfect and I just added some mangroves underneath in a refugium. Now it's time to do it right... :yes:
