I know the Ocean is vast but I cant Imagine why?

miaheatlvr

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They cannot find any wreckage of that plane over 15hrs later? I mean the wreckage should go for miles.. no?
 

reefraff

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Plane hit ocean going x miles per hour, everything aboard turns to confetti. Remember seeing the sit where they crash the one into the field on 9-11. There wasn't a lot there and that thing wasn't moving all that fast from what I understand. If this one took a lightning strike and went in dead stick it was probably hauling cheeks when it hit the water.
 

culp

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i don't think you understand how much area they have to search. they haven't even found the missing H bomb after over 40 years.
 

ironeagle2006

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Plus they are only doing an Arieal search right now and from 10K feet a piece of paper is easy to miss. Closest ship can not get their til WEDS at the eariliest. Also the currents will move the wreckage around all over the place. If it comes out that it is a design error with Airbus planes think about it the American plane that crashed in the Hudson after 9/11 because the software did not have a limit in it to prevent the PILOT form ripping the tail off it. Then the US/Air plane an A320 that crashed int eh east river luckily there everyone walked away. Now this one why because Airbus uses a Fly By wire ONLY with NO manual BACK UP the plane loses all power no CONTROLS or the Computers do not know when to stop moving the Controls in the Case of the American A300 that Crashed. The last thing they got was a complete Electrical Failure which means the pilot had lost all computers and with that the flight controls also.
Remember this is the SAME plane that crashed during a flybuy on a TEST FLIGHT because the computer deployed the Thrust reveresers in FLIGHT.
 

miaheatlvr

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Originally Posted by ironeagle2006
http:///forum/post/3054597
Plus they are only doing an Arieal search right now and from 10K feet a piece of paper is easy to miss. Closest ship can not get their til WEDS at the eariliest. Also the currents will move the wreckage around all over the place. If it comes out that it is a design error with Airbus planes think about it the American plane that crashed in the Hudson after 9/11 because the software did not have a limit in it to prevent the PILOT form ripping the tail off it. Then the US/Air plane an A320 that crashed int eh east river luckily there everyone walked away. Now this one why because Airbus uses a Fly By wire ONLY with NO manual BACK UP the plane loses all power no CONTROLS or the Computers do not know when to stop moving the Controls in the Case of the American A300 that Crashed. The last thing they got was a complete Electrical Failure which means the pilot had lost all computers and with that the flight controls also.
Remember this is the SAME plane that crashed during a flybuy on a TEST FLIGHT because the computer deployed the Thrust reveresers in FLIGHT.
I never liked them French Airbuses! I am a Boeing/MD man all the way.. and I travel quite a bit!
 

renogaw

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Originally Posted by Culp
http:///forum/post/3054589
i don't think you understand how much area they have to search. they haven't even found the missing H bomb after over 40 years.
they found it on the island in Lost, buried it underground then exploded it 20 years later in the season finale a few weeks ago, where do you think this plane is??
seriously though, there was a report of another pilot seeing orange spots (fire) on the water. retrace his flight pattern and look for the black box...
 

mie

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This is so sad.
Lots of plane crashes lately, I think they should start making the planes out of the stuff they make the black box with, that thing is always intact.
 

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by ironeagle2006
http:///forum/post/3054597
Plus they are only doing an Arieal search right now and from 10K feet a piece of paper is easy to miss. Closest ship can not get their til WEDS at the eariliest. Also the currents will move the wreckage around all over the place. If it comes out that it is a design error with Airbus planes think about it the American plane that crashed in the Hudson after 9/11 because the software did not have a limit in it to prevent the PILOT form ripping the tail off it. Then the US/Air plane an A320 that crashed int eh east river luckily there everyone walked away. Now this one why because Airbus uses a Fly By wire ONLY with NO manual BACK UP the plane loses all power no CONTROLS or the Computers do not know when to stop moving the Controls in the Case of the American A300 that Crashed. The last thing they got was a complete Electrical Failure which means the pilot had lost all computers and with that the flight controls also.
Remember this is the SAME plane that crashed during a flybuy on a TEST FLIGHT because the computer deployed the Thrust reveresers in FLIGHT.
That is nuts, I can't imagine building a plane where the computer goes out, you can't control the aircraft...
 

bionicarm

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Read this blurb on MSN...
RIO DE JANEIRO - An airplane seat cushion, a life jacket, metallic debris and signs of fuel were found in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean on Tuesday by Brazilian airplanes searching for a missing Air France airliner.
The debris was spotted from the air by Brazilian military pilots searching 410 miles north of the Brazilian island of Fernando de Noronha, roughly along the path that the jet was taking before it disappeared with 228 people on board, said Air Force spokesman Jorge Amaral.
There were no signs of life in two sightings of separate debris areas about 35 miles apart.
"The locations where the objects were found are towards the right of the point where the last signal of the plane was emitted," Amaral said. "That suggests that it might have tried to make a turn, maybe to return to Fernando de Noronha, but that is just a hypothesis."
Amaral said authorities would not be able to confirm that the debris is from the plane until they can retrieve some of it from the ocean for identification. Brazilian military ships are not expected to arrive at the area until Wednesday.
 

ironeagle2006

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Remember this plane was designed by 4 different NATIONS that at one time FOUGHT against each other also. The A330 computer was programmed in German the Wings are built in England the Plane is Built in France and the Body in Spain yet all the designers use their own lauguages to do their work in. This would be like taking a Ford V-8 block forcing Hemi Heads on it and then putting a Chevy Crank into the Block IT DOES NOT WORK.
8 Years ago Airbus announced their A400 to try and compete with the C130 Hercules since they were tired of seeing all those Herkys doing all that work. They said that it would be flying in 3 years. IT STILL HAS YET TO MAKE IT PAST DESIGN STAGE.
Airbus the Company that builds the biggest jet in the WORLD the A380 yet builds the factory were the Fuslages have to be TRUCKED thru a village that is so tight that if the driver hits a bump that part of the fusalage is destroyed. Nice advance planning huh.
 
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