reefboy1994
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I have had a problem in the past with ich. I am scared that if i get a hippo tang he will re-introduce ich to my tank. Does anyone have a suggestion on how to successfully keep one?
I want a hippo tang
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calvertbill
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QT six weeks---QT six weeks---QT six weeks---QT six weeks---QT six weeks---QT six weeks---
A lot of people will tell you smaller numbers, but the entire life cycle of the parasite is 37-39 days from the infestation, free swimming trophants, encystment, theronts, blah blah. The problem when cutting the time shorter is that you don't know which stage of the life cycle it's in. Is the fish infected or is it the water?
As the universally acclaimed expert Rosanne Rosannadanna once said, "if it's not one thing, it's another thing" RIP.
For what it's worth, I had the same fear so I kept my eyes open for fish for sale by moving hobbyists. My two Hippos (one bought from a guy moving to Japan, the other from a DT at MACNA in Atlanta) are now 4" and 5" respectively and doing great!.
A lot of people will tell you smaller numbers, but the entire life cycle of the parasite is 37-39 days from the infestation, free swimming trophants, encystment, theronts, blah blah. The problem when cutting the time shorter is that you don't know which stage of the life cycle it's in. Is the fish infected or is it the water?
As the universally acclaimed expert Rosanne Rosannadanna once said, "if it's not one thing, it's another thing" RIP.
For what it's worth, I had the same fear so I kept my eyes open for fish for sale by moving hobbyists. My two Hippos (one bought from a guy moving to Japan, the other from a DT at MACNA in Atlanta) are now 4" and 5" respectively and doing great!.
reefboy1994
Member
sounds good bout the qt tank...but sooo long 
if i get one from a friend are you saying i dont have to qt him?
if i get one from a friend are you saying i dont have to qt him?
mboswell1982
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you ALWAYS QT, thats the purpose of a QT, no matter who you get the fish from, or waht fish it is, you ALWAYS QT
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calvertbill
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Originally Posted by mboswell1982
http:///forum/post/2871055
you ALWAYS QT, thats the purpose of a QT, no matter who you get the fish from, or waht fish it is, you ALWAYS QT
+1
If you trust your friend who says the fish has been in his tank for more than 6 weeks, maybe you could consider it safe...but what if he wasn't thinking about the frag he got at a swap meet. Parasites can enter a tank in the water which travels with the frag!
It's like an STD. How truly do you trust that this person has thought out every possibility of infection?
I have a terrible track record maintaining QT fish in a smaller tank so these days I let any new arrivals spend their QT in a 55 with a snowflake which I can't put in my reef, but can't bring myself to destroy.
If the snowflake catches something I won't shed too many tears.
http:///forum/post/2871055
you ALWAYS QT, thats the purpose of a QT, no matter who you get the fish from, or waht fish it is, you ALWAYS QT
+1
If you trust your friend who says the fish has been in his tank for more than 6 weeks, maybe you could consider it safe...but what if he wasn't thinking about the frag he got at a swap meet. Parasites can enter a tank in the water which travels with the frag!
It's like an STD. How truly do you trust that this person has thought out every possibility of infection?
I have a terrible track record maintaining QT fish in a smaller tank so these days I let any new arrivals spend their QT in a 55 with a snowflake which I can't put in my reef, but can't bring myself to destroy.
If the snowflake catches something I won't shed too many tears.
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usirchchris
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Originally Posted by BabyB
http:///forum/post/2869948
every tank already has ich it just waits for the right moment to pop up, if your wanting to get one i would def. qt him befor going into the display tank
Not sure if this is sarcasm...just in case it is not....ich is introduced into a system thus the purpose of a QT. You QT a fish so that it does not introduce ich into your display. Ich is not in a tank until it is introduced from an outside source, and if you QT correctly you will never have ich in your display.
Why would you QT if you thought all tanks had ich?
http:///forum/post/2869948
every tank already has ich it just waits for the right moment to pop up, if your wanting to get one i would def. qt him befor going into the display tank
Not sure if this is sarcasm...just in case it is not....ich is introduced into a system thus the purpose of a QT. You QT a fish so that it does not introduce ich into your display. Ich is not in a tank until it is introduced from an outside source, and if you QT correctly you will never have ich in your display.
Why would you QT if you thought all tanks had ich?
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calvertbill
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Originally Posted by usirchchris
http:///forum/post/2871742
Not sure if this is sarcasm...just in case it is not....ich is introduced into a system thus the purpose of a QT. You QT a fish so that it does not introduce ich into your display. Ich is not in a tank until it is introduced, and if you QT correctly you will never have ich in your display.
Why would you QT if you thought all tanks had ich?
Thanks! I was dying to say the same thing but didn't have the energy to confront others religious beliefs.
http:///forum/post/2871742
Not sure if this is sarcasm...just in case it is not....ich is introduced into a system thus the purpose of a QT. You QT a fish so that it does not introduce ich into your display. Ich is not in a tank until it is introduced, and if you QT correctly you will never have ich in your display.
Why would you QT if you thought all tanks had ich?
Thanks! I was dying to say the same thing but didn't have the energy to confront others religious beliefs.
culp
Active Member
Originally Posted by usirchchris
http:///forum/post/2871742
Not sure if this is sarcasm...just in case it is not....ich is introduced into a system thus the purpose of a QT. You QT a fish so that it does not introduce ich into your display. Ich is not in a tank until it is introduced, and if you QT correctly you will never have ich in your display.
Why would you QT if you thought all tanks had ich?
i always thought there was two ways for fish to get ich. first being getting it from a different fish. or two the fish being stressed out.
my problem with putting my hippo into my QT tank was that my QT tank is only a 10 gallon tank. and my hippo hatted being in a small box.
http:///forum/post/2871742
Not sure if this is sarcasm...just in case it is not....ich is introduced into a system thus the purpose of a QT. You QT a fish so that it does not introduce ich into your display. Ich is not in a tank until it is introduced, and if you QT correctly you will never have ich in your display.
Why would you QT if you thought all tanks had ich?
i always thought there was two ways for fish to get ich. first being getting it from a different fish. or two the fish being stressed out.
my problem with putting my hippo into my QT tank was that my QT tank is only a 10 gallon tank. and my hippo hatted being in a small box.
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usirchchris
Guest
Originally Posted by Culp
http:///forum/post/2871768
i always thought there was two ways for fish to get ich. first being getting it from a different fish. or two the fish being stressed out.
my problem with putting my hippo into my QT tank was that my QT tank is only a 10 gallon tank. and my hippo hatted being in a small box.
Stress weakens a fishes immune system to the point that the ich may overcome the fishes natural defense. Fish can become immune to ich to a point...there are situations in which a fish can live with ich, but the slightest stress will more than likely trigger an outbreak that overwhelms the fish. Ich is a parasite (invertebrate, thus the reason any effective treatment cannot be done with inverts) that has to be introduced into the system. It is not created by the system. Any fish that suddenly "has ich" had it all the time.
http:///forum/post/2871768
i always thought there was two ways for fish to get ich. first being getting it from a different fish. or two the fish being stressed out.
my problem with putting my hippo into my QT tank was that my QT tank is only a 10 gallon tank. and my hippo hatted being in a small box.
Stress weakens a fishes immune system to the point that the ich may overcome the fishes natural defense. Fish can become immune to ich to a point...there are situations in which a fish can live with ich, but the slightest stress will more than likely trigger an outbreak that overwhelms the fish. Ich is a parasite (invertebrate, thus the reason any effective treatment cannot be done with inverts) that has to be introduced into the system. It is not created by the system. Any fish that suddenly "has ich" had it all the time.
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calvertbill
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Originally Posted by Culp
http:///forum/post/2871768
i always thought there was two ways for fish to get ich. first being getting it from a different fish. or two the fish being stressed out.
my problem with putting my hippo into my QT tank was that my QT tank is only a 10 gallon tank. and my hippo hatted being in a small box.
The ICH parasite is a critter. It eats, lives, makes little ICH babies, and dies. It can't materialize out of thin water (only time-travelers can do that).
The surest way to KILL it is to interrupt it's life cycle. An ICH parasite in it's free swimming stage MUST find a fish host...or die. That's why the disease is so rare in the ocean. A free swimming little ICH guy that can't find a host is in big trouble and there are LOTS of cubic yards of ocean with no fish around. ICH is mostly a problem of wholesalers, retailers and careless hobbyists. Anywhere that there are lotsa fish in close proximity.
http:///forum/post/2871768
i always thought there was two ways for fish to get ich. first being getting it from a different fish. or two the fish being stressed out.
my problem with putting my hippo into my QT tank was that my QT tank is only a 10 gallon tank. and my hippo hatted being in a small box.
The ICH parasite is a critter. It eats, lives, makes little ICH babies, and dies. It can't materialize out of thin water (only time-travelers can do that).
The surest way to KILL it is to interrupt it's life cycle. An ICH parasite in it's free swimming stage MUST find a fish host...or die. That's why the disease is so rare in the ocean. A free swimming little ICH guy that can't find a host is in big trouble and there are LOTS of cubic yards of ocean with no fish around. ICH is mostly a problem of wholesalers, retailers and careless hobbyists. Anywhere that there are lotsa fish in close proximity.