i'm so depressed!

brian00ss

Member
I don't know what happened to my 90 Gal reef tank anymore. It's falling apart.
Nitrate level is so high and it's out of our control. I don't know what to do anymore. The sand are full of thick of brown algea and even brown on the wall of tank. Corals seemed to be struggling. I kept on adding calcium every other day.
Fish are doing great.
I don't know what to do anymore! I'm sooooo depressed! Please help.
Michelle
 

beth

Administrator
Staff member
Tell how you set it up, sand, filters, rock, water used. Maybe we can help with some specific details about how you are set up.
 

adam2817

Member
First, stop adding calcium. Work on one problem at a time. Add some power heads to circulate the tank. That will help keep down the brown algae (sounds like red slime to me) and, do a water change. Don't over feed your tank. How stocked is it? Don't add any fish until you get your nitrates in check.
 

brian00ss

Member
-90 gallon tank
-150 lbs live rock
-live sand
-current USA 48" HQI metal Halide light
-sump with no bio balls (we have bio balls)
-aqua C EV series Protein Skimmer
FISH
-copperbanded buttterfly
-coral beauty angelfish
-flame angel
-fisher's angel
-half black angel
-3 ocellaris clownfish
-blue green chromis damselfish
-2 yellow tail blue damelfish
-green mandarinfish
-2 fire goby
-2 dragonets
-foxface rabbitifsh
-green emerald crab
-white banded coral shrimp
-brittle starfish
-2 hiker unknown crabs
-a couple of snails and hermit crabs
CORAL
-mushroom coral
-finger leather
-green star polyp
-colorful sea rod
-yellow zoonthid
-mushroom anemone
-bubble coral
-scroll coral
-hard cup coral
-crystal coral?
-two dying "brain" alike coral
WHAT WE ADD TO TANK
-3 times a week
-KENT zooplex 2 teaspoons
-KENT phytoplex 2 teaspoons
-SEACHEM reef iodide 2 teaspoons
-2 times a week
-SEACHEM reef plus 2 teaspoons
-SEACHEM reef strongtium 4 teaspoons
-SEACHEM reef advantage calcium 2 teaspoons
WHAT IS IN THE TANK
-temp. 74 degree to 78 degree
-lighting
- dual actinics on 12 hours a day
-metal halides on 6 hours a day
-moon lights at night
-nitrate level is at around 100
-nitrite level is at 0
-a lot of algae growing
-fed brine shrimp about every other day (a size of nickel)
THANK THANK THANK YOU YOU YOU! I started this tank last September.
Michelle
 

beth

Administrator
Staff member
What are you using for water circulation? Pumps? How much sand do you have in the tank? And what size grains are the sand? What and how often are you feeding your fish? What is your source water and what is the nitrate reading on that water?
 
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essop3

Guest
I think you are overstocked too. I would remove a few fish and maybe think about adding a refugium. The plants will help remove some of the nitrates and eventually out compete the algae in the tank.
 

jb rekit

Member
I agree that you are overstocked. A refugium would be a huge help for you as well (the bigger the better).
But until then I would do about a 20 - 25% waterchange about every 3 days to get your nitrates below 20, closer to 10 would be better in order to keep what you have alive, bc I;m sure it is pretty stressed out right now.
 

brian00ss

Member
What is refugium? Do you know the websit that might have a good information about refugium? Thank you so much for all of your help. I appreciate it very much.
Michelle
 

pyro

Active Member
If you search around on this board, you can find tons of information on them. They are basically another tank plumbed into your system for whatever you want. I use mine to put myricle mud in and plant some macros in it.
If there is something you don't know, just go up to the search box and try and type it in, normally it'll come up. There is a TON of infomration on sumps and fuges. My myricle mud is working pretty good, I don't dose anythign other than a pinch of cycloop ease once a week.
I would stop dosing anything for right now. I doubt your corals are running out of nutrients, I think just the nitrates and other tank parameters are hurting them. The dosing is just turning off as nitrates and waste I beleive, making the problem worse.
Also, if you want to look into a sump (mostly equipment storage) or a fuge (mostly to plant macros to remove nitrates), also look into overflows so you don't have to drill your tank with stuff in it.
Break out the water jugs - it seems like you have a good bit of water changes to do over the next couple weeks :yes: .
Good Luck, let us know how it goes.
 

bdubbya

Member
Whoa, that tank is WAY overstocked with fish. I'd suggest cutting down the fish population and a severe regiment of waterchanges frequently (like once or twice a week, 15-20%) using only RODI water from a reputable source until NO3 levels have become more acceptable. You may have to do that permanently if you wish to keep such a large fish bio-load. Also, cut out all suplemental liquid feedings. Adding nutrients to your nitrate enriched tank will only make matters worse. When feeding, only give them as much as your fish can eat in only 2 minutes, with no leftovers whatsoever. Good luck.
 
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andretti

Guest
I can't believe you have anything alive with nitrates at 100! That's insane. You're over stocked and probabaly feeding too much as well. Did I see that you use bio balls? If so, that's a huge problem right there. Bio balls are nitrate factories. They collect detritus, food, etc and then they break down and become nitrates. I would do a 40% water change, get rid of the bio balls, get more live rock & sand, cut your feeding by at least 1/3 and donate a few of your critters to your lfs for credit. IMO
 
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xnikki118x

Guest
When I first set up a tank with a friend at school, like 6 months into it our nitrates were off the charts, and I believe the kit went up to 300ppm. We only had a blue damsel and a 3-striped damsel, that were 4 and 5 years old, respectively. I'm sure that's why they lived, hah.
Michelle came here for help and advice, just like the rest of us. I think some of us can be a little bit nicer. :)
Personally hon, my friend has a totally overstocked tank, but he has so much filtration it's insane. If I were you, I'd probably take back a few fish for credit/trade them to people/whatever. But, that's only assuming you aren't yet attached to them. If you want to keep them all, just get yourself a sump/fuge and add some more filtration and such.
Sounds like you have a good amount of live rock. :) Is your algae on the rocks? Maybe you can scub them lightly in a bucket with an old toothbrush (or the toothbrush of someone you don't like, hah). Also, have you ever tested for phosphates? How are your salinity, pH, and alkalinity readings?
Something I've learned from experience--don't add anything you don't test for. I believe iodide can be overdosed so you should test for it if you're going to add it, and I think there are strongtium tests as well. I definitely agree with everyone who's said to stop adding stuff for right now, and also about getting out the water buckets. Water changes can't hurt!!
Also, it doesn't sound to me like you're overfeeding. A nickel-sized piece of brine every other day for all those fish, I'd say is a far cry from overfeeding. I'd actually probably feed more, lol, but I definitely wouldn't start feeding more (if you do) until you get this cleared up.
I hope I've helped somewhat!! Good luck at getting your tank back to normal--your setup sounds awesome and I'm so jealous of all your lighting.
 

brian00ss

Member
Guess what. My tap water has high nitrate! We just added R.O. system a while ago.
Do you think it'll help if I do some water change with R.O. system?
Thanks, you all!
Michelle
 

houndhome1

Member
we fought nitrate for awhile. We found that our tap water was bad. we now add ammonquill to the tap water. Also no one has mentioned that you are keeping the lights on way to long. Algea love the bright lights. try limiting the light time. We had a red slime algea bloom. We limited the lights times along with water changes. problem gone.
good luck.
 

pyro

Active Member
I don't remember if you said red-slime algae, but don't really have the time to look, gotta go really soon.
If there is red-slime (cyano), many times it is a flow problem. If it is cyano, do a search on this board for it, there are many people that have had trouble with it and you can learn a lot from it. :yes:
I have a bad flow problem that I'm going to try and correct after I rearrange my rocks. I'm lucky so far I don't have a problem with it (Now I just gotta find a good piece of wood, darn particle board desks.)
 

scubadoo

Active Member
You should feed your animals something more than brine shrimp. THey have about the same nutritonal value for marine animals as a Three Musketeer Bar.
Brine Shrimp lose most of the desired nutrition within the fist sevral hours of their life. They develop quickly and use this nutrtion early on.
JMO
 
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