In-line closed loop filter??

snakeblitz33

snakeblitz33

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Anyone ever thought about an in-line closed loop filter? Kinda shaped like a shop vac filter? Like - taking some kind of filter like that and sticking it in a piece of PVC and have true unions on either side of it?? Just filters out particles and the filter would have to be cleaned just like any other filter - but it would polish the water. Make something custom and use carbon in it... Anyways, just thinking out loud.
I know there are pre-filters to keep large snails and hermits out of a closed loop drain. That's not what I'm talking about.
 
acrylic51

acrylic51

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Yeah it would be possible....Wouldn't have to be something custom, I could think of 1 way right off the top of my head, but the idea behind a CL isn't for filtration purposes.......
 
flower

flower

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Originally Posted by SnakeBlitz33 http:///t/391455/in-line-closed-loop-filter#post_3471590
Anyone ever thought about an in-line closed loop filter? Kinda shaped like a shop vac filter? Like - taking some kind of filter like that and sticking it in a piece of PVC and have true unions on either side of it?? Just filters out particles and the filter would have to be cleaned just like any other filter - but it would polish the water. Make something custom and use carbon in it... Anyways, just thinking out loud.
I know there are pre-filters to keep large snails and hermits out of a closed loop drain. That's not what I'm talking about.
Maybe I am misunderstanding...but isn't that called a canister filter? One container...one hose in and one hose out and filter media in the container....carbon and filter floss will polish the water.

Or please explain a closed loop...
 
2quills

2quills

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Seth check out the home improvement stores or online. Plenty of options out there. Thinking something along the lines of whole house filtration devices. Typically installed somewhere on the main line coming into the house they have filters that look just like our typical ro filter equipment but are a little larger and can be installed using pvc fittings.
 
acrylic51

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Originally Posted by 2Quills http:///t/391455/in-line-closed-loop-filter#post_3471642
Seth check out the home improvement stores or online. Plenty of options out there. Thinking something along the lines of whole house filtration devices. Typically installed somewhere on the main line coming into the house they have filters that look just like our typical ro filter equipment but are a little larger and can be installed using pvc fittings.
I was thinking along the lines of the "Jumbo" reactors....Kinda like the GFO reactors but the fat ones.....Again the only real issue I see is continually running water through decaying matter it will capture, and not sure if the filters (inside the canister) would withhold the flow from a Snapper......
 
acrylic51

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Originally Posted by Flower http:///t/391455/in-line-closed-loop-filter#post_3471640
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Originally Posted by SnakeBlitz33 http:///t/391455/in-line-closed-loop-filter#post_3471590
Anyone ever thought about an in-line closed loop filter? Kinda shaped like a shop vac filter? Like - taking some kind of filter like that and sticking it in a piece of PVC and have true unions on either side of it?? Just filters out particles and the filter would have to be cleaned just like any other filter - but it would polish the water. Make something custom and use carbon in it... Anyways, just thinking out loud.
I know there are pre-filters to keep large snails and hermits out of a closed loop drain. That's not what I'm talking about.
Maybe I am misunderstanding...but isn't that called a canister filter? One container...one hose in and one hose out and filter media in the container....carbon and filter floss will polish the water.

Or please explain a closed loop...
Flower a CL is merely a flow extension or means......The water basically flows through a continual loop never "technically" leaving the aquarium.....Being that you have an exit (drain) port, though PVC to a pump and then pump back into the aquarium.....Basically a continual loop. It differs from a filtration loop since there is technically no holding container for the water as in a sump setup. With a CL you don't worry about back siphons or power outages.....
 
acrylic51

acrylic51

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Seth what about something like this......

Ocean Clear modular filters allow you to mix and match in order to get just the right combination of filtering for you needs. This system works with freshwater or saltwater aquariums or ponds and each unit is rated for aquariums or ponds up to 500 gallons. Multiple units can be hooked together to accommodate any size aquarium or pond. The 318 uses 205 sq. ft. of 50 micron polystrand filter pads. The top and bottom pads have smooth edges and the center ones have notched edges. A mechanical unit, such as the Ocean clear 317, 325 or 340, should be used in line prior to this unit. Use an external pump with a flow rate of 500-1600 gph. The manufacturer recommends using a pump at the higher end gph, especially if using more than one unit in tandem. Inlet and outlet size is 3/4 in.
Filter includes:
Filter body, lid, gray thread ring, media and parts pack.
Parts pack includes: 1 drain valve with garden hose thread outlet, 1 3/4 in. x 3/4 in. straight adapter, 1 3/4 in. x 3/4 in. elbow adapter, 5 in. piece of 3/4 in. ID vinyl tubing, 2 speedy clamps, 1 vent plug with o-ring for lid and 1 pipe plug with o-ring.
 
2quills

2quills

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Yeah that would work. Or even something simple like this sediment filter for a little water polishing...
 
snakeblitz33

snakeblitz33

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Yeah, I was thinking more on the lines of what 2quills is.
Have the closed loop go to all of the returns but also have a 1/2" split off the return plumbing to feed a GFO reactor, a carbon reactor, a sediment filter and the option of a uv sterilizer, then returned to the tank. The only thing I would have a sump for is a refugium and skimmer.
Is that possible? I know that the sediment filter will probably get pretty clogged and you shouldn't use anything smaller than 100 microns most likely huh? What sediment filter would one suggest?
 
acrylic51

acrylic51

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It would work.....And I do have an idea for a cartridge, but not even sure where you'd even hunt or look for what I'm thinking.....
If you have ever messed with the Magnum canister filter systems....The came with a cartridge that you could stuff carbon or what not in, and then it came with a pleated type filter. The pleated type filter was more for water polishing, but when they would clog or begin to clog, you could swap in a new 1 and take the old one and wash out in a water/bleach mix and air dry and reuse.....I am thinking of something that you could reuse cutting down cost as far as buying replacement filters.....
 
snakeblitz33

snakeblitz33

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Yeah. I used to have a magnum canister a long time ago. That is like what I was thinking too. The pleated filter.
 
acrylic51

acrylic51

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I don't even know where to even start to look for pleated filters like that, but if you could get a lead on the filters something like the BRS Jumbo reactor would work if you could get a filter to fit.
 
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