Injured Anenome!! Help ASAP!!

seannmelly

seannmelly

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Ok, I just got a LTA Thursday from the store I worked at. Right now, his mouth looks a little too big, however, his guts are not spilling. He opens up very nicely. He is in medium to high flow, it's the only place I can really put him, my GSM is loving every minute of him. However, tonight I noticed a tear in the side of his "foot" with 2 white(translucent) bubbly looking things poking out, and another more opaque white looking thing coming out. I am fearing for the worst. I have to be honest, this is will be the third anenome I've gone through in the atleast a month and a half, neither of the first 2 made it past a week. Atleast this one is somewhat footing... My parameters are within range...
Amm, Nitrite, Nitrate 0 ppm, PH 8.2-8.4, Alk 3.5, Calcium 460ppm, temp 78-80F, Salinity 1.025, under 3x150watt hqi, 4x96watt pc of lights. The only thing I can think of is either he got cut on a piece of live rock because he is against the rocks, or my clown did it(yesterday, he bit the foot and looked like he was trying to pull and move him! p.s. my clown is a moron). Please help A.S.A.P!!! Anyone with some insight please respond, any comment are appreciated!!!!!
Melly
 
rcdude1990

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i think its the clowns fault mayb
i bought a PTA yesturday, i threw him in the tank and my clown was eating his tenticles!!! i immidiatly took the clown out now its in a net like cage hopefully i do somthin about him but now my anenome is fine
 
seannmelly

seannmelly

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Originally Posted by rcdude1990
i think its the clowns fault mayb
i bought a PTA yesturday, i threw him in the tank and my clown was eating his tenticles!!! i immidiatly took the clown out now its in a net like cage hopefully i do somthin about him but now my anenome is fine
Yea, my clown has issues he hosts alot of stuff(grape caulerpa, mushrooms, candy cane, and clam), he saw the anenome floating in the bag in the tank(part of our acclimation process) and was going crazy. This is not the first anenome he has bit either! Thanks for your input. I wouldn't worry so much about biting the tenticles, but I am really concerned that he was biting the foot of the anenome!!
Melly
 
rcdude1990

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well if i were u, u should really take oneout because (i dont really want to scare u) if the anenome dies over night and u dont no and it somehow gets sucked into a powerhead, or a overflow u will have a messed up tank so if i were u it should b the clown that goes i no it hurts giving up a fish but i almost did but i recently bought a net like cage he is in now. he fits in it and he swims a lot in it but every other day i take him out, put him in a QT tank for a night so he can swim a lil and then he goes back into my show tank wit the cage. if u dont mind doin that then go for it
 
seannmelly

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Originally Posted by rcdude1990
well if i were u, u should really take oneout because (i dont really want to scare u) if the anenome dies over night and u dont no and it somehow gets sucked into a powerhead, or a overflow u will have a messed up tank so if i were u it should b the clown that goes i no it hurts giving up a fish but i almost did but i recently bought a net like cage he is in now. he fits in it and he swims a lot in it but every other day i take him out, put him in a QT tank for a night so he can swim a lil and then he goes back into my show tank wit the cage. if u dont mind doin that then go for it
I'm not messing with putting things in my tank like net cages. If the clown is really the culprit, that after this one dies(if it doesn't heal) then I just won't get another. I don't really want an anenome, I'm just sick of the clown going in stuff he shouldn't especially my clam. I really think that it got cut on my live rock, if it is possible. The clown wasn't trying to bite it like he was threatened by it and trying to kill it. Just looked like he was trying to move it. I'm not very worried about it dieing overnight, it's in the middle of my tank, not near anything that "sucks" I guess, not near powerheads or overflows. The other ones that passed just stayed put and looked horrible beyond coming back. Thanks again! Anyone else?
Melly
 
dogstar

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Once they get a bad tear their pretty much doomed.....LTA should be in low flow and deep sand, they bury their foot in the sand. Im sure the clown was pretty rough as they nomally get when discovering an anemone......But I doubt it was the cause..IDK
Maybe try a different LFS.
 
seannmelly

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Originally Posted by Dogstar
Once they get a bad tear their pretty much doomed.....LTA should be in low flow and deep sand, they bury their foot in the sand. Im sure the clown was pretty rough as they nomally get when discovering an anemone......But I doubt it was the cause..IDK
Maybe try a different LFS.
It is my lfs that I work at. I bagged the anenome following all proper procedures. However, I did not handle it when it first arrived. It was the one that opened the fullest, and looked extremely healthy. My sand bed(when my diamond goby is messing it all up) is almost 3" which I think is sufficient enough. I would love to move it, but I am afraid to move it and stress it further. Dogstar, should I not get another since my clown is too rough with his anenome? I love how they interact but this is getting ridiculous!!!! Thanks!
Melly
 
dogstar

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I mentioned another store becuase you said you lost 3 in less then 2 months, thinking the store was selling bad animals to you. You will have to determine if thats the cause. With respect, if you feel the animals are in good shape when you get them then you need to consider you tank systems conditions as to rather it can keep an anemone healthy or not or you skill. Its very easy to damage the skin of an anemone when trying to remove them from any surface. This could be the case with just this one or all of them but IDK. You posted some specs on your system and all sounds good but I cant explain why the others did not make it so ther must be reasons
You know its hard to give simple answers to most any problems in this hobby.....
The best way to introduce an anemone to an estabished aggressive Clown is to make sure the anemone is large enough to handle the abuse. IMO, 5 X larger or more when open and not a bad idea to QT the clown untill the anemone is settled...Are you able to post some pics, they can help. Sorry that I cant be more of help but if it gets you thinking too then maybe YOU can figure it out.
 
seannmelly

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Originally Posted by Dogstar
I mentioned another store becuase you said you lost 3 in less then 2 months, thinking the store was selling bad animals to you. You will have to determine if thats the cause. With respect, if you feel the animals are in good shape when you get them then you need to consider you tank systems conditions as to rather it can keep an anemone healthy or not or you skill. Its very easy to damage the skin of an anemone when trying to remove them from any surface. This could be the case with just this one or all of them but IDK. You posted some specs on your system and all sounds good but I cant explain why the others did not make it so ther must be reasons
You know its hard to give simple answers to most any problems in this hobby.....
The best way to introduce an anemone to an estabished aggressive Clown is to make sure the anemone is large enough to handle the abuse. IMO, 5 X larger or more when open and not a bad idea to QT the clown untill the anemone is settled...Are you able to post some pics, they can help. Sorry that I cant be more of help but if it gets you thinking too then maybe YOU can figure it out.
I might be able to post pics later but my lights haven't come yet but right now, you can't see the wound on his foot. This did look very healthy. I think my clown might be the culprit. But in order to catch him, it requires alot of breaking down the rocks and corals, and I am not up for doing that. So far, he has calmed down a little bit and the biting seems to have stopped. The anenome is still opening, but it's mouth still looks too large. Thanks for the help.
 
seannmelly

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Here are some pictures. The first one was taken by my boyfriend yesterday. You can see its enlarged mouth. And the last two were taken today when my lights came on. Now it is totally closed up, but the foot is still inflated. You can see the damage on the right side of the foot. I am stumped. I have never seen an anenome do this before. Any input appreciated! Thanks again!
Melly


 
shelley

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Is that the top of him that came off? Yeah, he's not looking good. Watch for any signs of desinegration. I had one that died and almost nuked my tank.
 
rcdude1990

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may i ask how u now he is dieing? wat signs shows that he is so that i can no in the future if my anenomes do this?
can u tell because in the second pic he has like a huge lump?
 
unleashed

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well he def looks a bit bleached .hes def injured but im not so sure sure hes at deaths doorway just yet..anenomes will reduce in size to expell waste almost shrinking to nothing once he opns back up start feeding him daily with cyclopseze (i found liquid life to work great)and a bit of mysis shrimp.i would also add some selcon to the mix not zoe or zoecan (selcon).if the food does not stick to hs tenticles place the food directly into his mouth gently(if he cant catch food he will die of starvation and he cannot sting you) you will need to do this daily to get him back to health..hes stressing big time right now
 
seannmelly

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Well, just turned the lights on, and doesn't look good. He's gone. I don' think he's bleached or was bleached at all. He had some really nice color, just had a wound on his foot that has only gotten bigger and bigger in the past 2 days. This wound went almost all the way around his entire foot. The top of him did not come off, it was sucked down into the middle of his foot so all you could see was his foot. He started looking better yesterday and he opened up again. But this morning he was gone. I don't know why I have had so much trouble with lta. I had a carpet for the longest time under less that ideal conditions.
 
swlover

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Let us know if he resurfaces, or by gone do you mean died? bless his heart (I know he don't have one...it's a southern thing!) Maybe you should get a fake one and see what your clown does to it and then after he gets all his aggression out on it, get you a another, maybe another species? Maybe he just needs to beat up on something, sexually frustrated? No mate? Hope all works out for ya. Opps, just reread your post so sorry
 
seannmelly

seannmelly

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Originally Posted by swlover
Let us know if he resurfaces, or by gone do you mean died? bless his heart (I know he don't have one...it's a southern thing!) Maybe you should get a fake one and see what your clown does to it and then after he gets all his aggression out on it, get you a another, maybe another species? Maybe he just needs to beat up on something, sexually frustrated? No mate? Hope all works out for ya. Opps, just reread your post so sorry

Thanks. My clown is the only one. I don't even want to try to pair him/her up because I see how he treats his anenomes! I would love a pair, but if I thought about it more before I actually bought him, I would have loved to try to pair it before I bought him! I'm not into fake stuff. I guess I just won't own an anenome.
 
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