Is 9000 watts really necessary?

jferrier

Member
Well not quite 9000 watts, but lots of people in here have 300 plus watts on setups as small as 55 gals. I've only got around 175
watts 1/2 actinic and 1/2 white lights and everything has been doing great for quite a while now. What are everyones watt per gallon ratio and what corals do you have?
 

ryebread

Active Member
Not exactly all of those watts are necessary.
A lot of it is what you want to keep in the tank and what you are wanting the tank to look like.
I personally have 225watts of VHO lights on a 29gal. tank. I will be adding one more bulb soon to make it 300watts.
Reasons that I want all of that light are:
I like the way the corals look and grow under stronger lighting, I can keep almost anything that I want to in the tank, it enabled me to house clams in the tank, I think the brighter it is........the more attractive the tank is to me.
It opens up lots of options on what I want to keep in the tank. I am not limited to this or to that.......to an extent.;)
If the things in your tank are doing well for you right now and you don't plan to keep more light sensative species........do you need any more lighting? Probably not. One thing to keep in mind though is that some of your corals may be surviving but, not thriving.......not that yours are just surviving.
 

richard rendos

Active Member
Depends on the inhabitants. On my 120 which is mainly SPS, I have 1020 watts = 8.5 watts per gallon. Over my 54 gallon which is mainly softies, I have 250 watts = 4.6 watts per gallon. Over my anemone tank that is about 30 gallons, I have 247 watts = 8.23 watts per gallon. Everything is doing equally as well in all three tanks.
 

jonthefb

Active Member
watts per gallon is a good benchmark untill you see a tank that completely blows it away. for example i run 130watts of pc light over my 20 gallon (6.7wpg) and keep acros, montis, clams, etc and everythign is doing fine and growing considerably. i met a reefer in denver who has a 600gallon tank, and runs 6 250 w hqi mh's and 8 32 watt pc actinics. if you take the time to figure this all out, it is running at about 2.3 wpg. This man has a green slimer acro that is as big as a basketball, and he has to prune it to keep it from growing out of the water (mind you it is now 6 years old as well) he has a table acro that is about as wide around as a large serving platter that is also 6 years old. which finally made me "see the Light" (sorry about the pun) that WPG doesnt matter, it is the intensity of the light that matters. he has football sized derasa and squamosa clams that chill on his sandbed, and two of the most beautiful plating colonies of Montipora Capricornis that i have ever seen (ive even got a frag of his orange one) Lighting is the most important part of a REEF tank. it is also one of the most higly debated topics on the board as well it should be. Just remember to not do what i did and get all set about watts per gallon cause then you meet guys like this who throw you right back to the drawing board and you have to, as Yoda so succintly put it "unlearn what you have learned"!
good luck
jon
 

rook

Member
Rye & Lebo,
I too have 29 gallon. 3 x 55watt pcs =165 or 5.7w/g.
I have a couple sps and a squas clam. I want to upgrade though.
Considering either the 300 watt vho like Rye or 285 of mh and pc.
Rye, do you keep sps? Do they get good color, or like mine, are they doing good but not with great color? How about that maxima?
Damn lighting.
 

jonthefb

Active Member
practice practice practice. i mean without a meter or measuring device, there really isnt any way of telling. intensity is basically like this, MH, PC, VHO, HO, NO in order of most intense to least intense. there fore you would need more Vhos to get the intensity of PC's and more pc's to get the intenisty of MH's how many more, or by what degree of intensity they increase, i do not know, good idea for one of my lab experiments though. this is what i have finally realized after playing the wpg game for 7 years now. isnt that a kick in the pants.
bigmac, ive been trying to get ahold of you on th ebb for awhile no. do you have instant messenger or anything? i would like to chat it up with ya on my plans for illuminating my 65. if youve got time give me a holer, my yahoo/aim id is jonthefb, and my email is jonthan.garnett@attbi.com
thanks guys and good luck
jon
 

rook

Member
Hmmmmmmmm
So what you are saying is that even though the three 175's have a total watage of 525, the 400 watt bulb would be better because of the intensity of the light can penetrate the water better and deeper??
 

krux

Member
i have 7.5 wpg on my 115, but it is only a 20 inch deep tank, as stated above, watts per depth and square footage might be a better benchmark.
 

krux

Member
There are 5610 watts over this mystery tank, 12 400 watt halides and 6 6' vho bulbs.
This tank "only" has 6.6 watts per gallon, but it holds the hardest to keep corals around (when it is full).
 
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cowbuoy

Guest
nicky - I am curious on what you keep because I have a similar (I think - if it is pc)set up and am getting started on corals
also - how long have you had them
do they grow well
is there good color
is this pc or vho or mh?
how often do you chnge bulbs?
are any pc bulbs better than others?
do yoy have a pic?
thanks
 

bobbravo2

Member
my 55 gallon is lit with 685 watts of light. This is 12.5 wpg. This is over 4 square feet, with 20 inches of depth. One side of the tank has a 400 watt Mh and the other is 175, allowing greater diversity in my corals
 

dburr

Active Member
Hmmm, I have 2 175MH and 2 32W no atinics. 414 watts over 90 gallon =4.6 WPG.
I got at least a dozen SPS in there. Yes, most at the top, softies more to the bottom.
I thought of going to 250's, but ,maybe next year, we'll see.
Sammy,
Don't forget the reflector.......no reflector cuts the light up to 50%......just another factor....often over looked.
Could you explain more, I think I read this wrong. I have a spider reflector. It adds up to 50% of light?
Dan
 

bobbravo2

Member
I think what he is saying is if you have a poor reflector, or no reflector at all, a large portion of the light will light the canopy, or back of the tank. i.e. wasted light
 
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