Is a CPR overflow any good?

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gwhunter

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Just as the title says I'm looking at a 800 gph CPR and I'm also considering the eshoppes units. Any others I should be looking at? I'm looking to order one in the next day or so.
Matt
 

pchromis

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On my 40g, I have been using the CPR hang on fuge with protein skimmer. It's been 4 years now and it still skims sufficiently. The original ph was a maxijet 1200. worked well but noisy....
 

hot shot 15

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I have the cs50 overflow and haven't had a problem with it. I've had it for roughly 6 months and have no complaints.
 
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gwhunter

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I just order the 1200gph unit with the lift pump and acrylic cover. It comes with dual bulkhead and my berliner wetdry has dual inlets so I'm thinking I'll run pvc and add ball valves to both. I also ordered a 1600gph return pump. I'll
also add a valve on that so I can throttle the return if neccesary. I'm excited to get it and set it all up. Then I just need to get some rubble rock and algea for the sump. Any recommendations on a good light for the sump? I was looking at a clip on unit. What is a good amount of time to run the light to keep the macro algea healthy.
Matt
 

scsinet

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I have 3 of them total, and frankly I've gotten tired of them. IMO they significantly overrate their flow rates. They rely on the aqualifter to function properly, and that suction tube is always clogging.
That said, as long as you run at about 80% flow (that seems to be the butter zone) and you keep a new aqualifter on hand at all times (as they clog as well and are pretty much throwaways), and you keep a close eye on the water level and check for clogs if you see it starting to rise, you'll be fine.
 

loopy101

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Originally Posted by SCSInet
http:///forum/post/3114911
I have 3 of them total, and frankly I've gotten tired of them. IMO they significantly overrate their flow rates. They rely on the aqualifter to function properly, and that suction tube is always clogging.
That said, as long as you run at about 80% flow (that seems to be the butter zone) and you keep a new aqualifter on hand at all times (as they clog as well and are pretty much throwaways), and you keep a close eye on the water level and check for clogs if you see it starting to rise, you'll be fine.
this is good info to know! i have been thinking of ordering one myself but i am thinking twice about it now.
 
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gwhunter

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Originally Posted by SCSInet
http:///forum/post/3114911
I have 3 of them total, and frankly I've gotten tired of them. IMO they significantly overrate their flow rates. They rely on the aqualifter to function properly, and that suction tube is always clogging.
That said, as long as you run at about 80% flow (that seems to be the butter zone) and you keep a new aqualifter on hand at all times (as they clog as well and are pretty much throwaways), and you keep a close eye on the water level and check for clogs if you see it starting to rise, you'll be fine.
Well, it's going on a 90g so I over rated the over flow and return pump. I've search on these cpr unit and the other brands as well. Every brand out there had a few issues about them. The only solution that seemed to have all good reviews was having the tank drilled. Now since the tank is already up and running drilling it was out for me. When I change over to my 210 I'm more than likly get it drilled.
Matt
 

stanlalee

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eshopps or any U-tube has MUCH less chance of breaking the siphon. gravity is more reliable than aqualifters.
 

scsinet

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Originally Posted by Stanlalee
http:///forum/post/3115326
eshopps or any U-tube has MUCH less chance of breaking the siphon. gravity is more reliable than aqualifters.
Regardless though, no siphon overflow is ever as reliable as a drilled overflow. All siphon units have issues.
 
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gwhunter

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Has you had your lift pump die on you? For the price of the lift pump and diaphram it doesn't seem like too big a deal to have an extra on hand. What kind of life should I expect from it? I looked into the dart overflow and the drill bit was included but knowing my like I'd ruin my tanks so I decided against it.
Matt
 

scsinet

Active Member
The overflow kits that require you to drill the side of the tank are usually not too risky to use. If you go to Home Despot and buy a piece of glass for a few bucks, you can practice drilling holes... there isn't much to it once you understand the basic concept.
As long as the tank you are drilling has suitably thick glass (most anything 55g or over will not have a problem), and you know it's not tempered, you shouldn't have any issues unless you use too much drilling pressure or you overtighten the bulkhead nut... by a lot.
Regardless, as far as the lift pump goes... since I run several of these overflows, I keep a handful of them on hand. I've had them last a few weeks, but I've also had them last over a year. The thing is, when they go, you are in a world of hurt if you don't have a spare, and they are nearly impossible to find locally. It's best to always have one new in box, on hand, then order another immediately when you have to break into the spare.
A few places sell these little "filters" that you can put on the line to protect the pump, but they leak something bad, and they cost only a bit less than a new pump, so replacing the pump is far easier and more reliable.
 
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