Is it ok to put these fish together in the same tank

[pfcbizz]

Hello, I've got a 85 Gallon tank I plan or want to put a Dwarf Lionfish, snowflake Eel, some type of angelfish and some type of tang, and I've heard as long as they arent fish that can fit in the mouth of the Lionfish it should be ok, and that the Eel is cool to be in the tank with the Lionfish, but I would like to hear the opinions of people here on the subject or if its ok what type of Angelfish and Tang should I get ?

 

[rainbow grouper]

Tangs need a lot of open swimming room and many are not recommended in anything less than 100 hundred gallons but perhaps a kole tang would be o.k and if you want an angel then a dwarf angel is the only type you can get. The lionfish not a lot about them but i do know one thing get it LAST so the smaller less aggressive fish can establish a territory the eel i,m not sure about also do you want a reef. if so beware of the angels they sometimes nip at corals.

 

[pfcbizz]

So your saying its not a good Ideal to get a tang ? but it's cool to put a Angel in the tank ? and the Lionfish should be the last one I put in the tank so let me ask how long should I wait before adding the Lionfish after the other fish ?

 

[rainbow grouper]

After you think you're fish have had time to establish a territory question reef or FOWLR?

 

[rainbow grouper]

P.S A tang would be o.k if you plan on upgrading soon but first tank specs?

 

[pfcbizz]

Its going to be a fish only tank, and I hadn't planned on upgrading anytime soon, so a tang is really out the question ? So what other fish would you suggest to place in the tank with a lionfish and Eel ?

 

[rainbow grouper]

A dwarf lion so that gets to about 8 and a half inches i am honestly not sure the eel forget 20 inches so that won't work. I'll get saxman on it. i'll PM him i don't know a lot about lions.

 

[rainbow grouper]

I PM'ed Saxman he should help out soon.

 

[pfcbizz]

Ok thank you Ill be checkin back to see the out come

 

[saxman]

Actually, the lion should go into the tank FIRST, to get it established and weaned. Lions aren't aggressive in the least, and are often the victims of bullying, but will indeed eat fish and crustaceans that will fit into their mouths. I recommend a dwarf fuzzy as your lionfish (Dendrochirus brachypterus). It will likely end up being 5" - 6" (TL) in captivity (figure about 75% - 80% of max wild size).
Large species angels and lions are bad juju...the angels will often nip the lions spines off and kill it. One of the more peaceful dwarf angels would be OK tho.
As for the SFE...IME, they're fine when juvies/sub-adults, but with size and age, they become pretty aggressive and often take to eating tankmates, and I think that down the road, you'll have way more issues with the eel than the lion. In fact, somebody on another site just had an eel (a whitemouth) eat his 7" P. volitans...
What are the dimensions of the tank? Is it 36" x 18" x 30?
If so, a 36" tank isn't a good footprint for even the mellowest tangs, as being big swimmers, they tend to "pace", and with cabin fever comes aggression.
HTH

 

[pfcbizz]

My tank is 5ft long, 1 foot wide and 2 foot high, so a Eel isnt a good tankmate with the Lionfish ? ok because I really want the Lionfish my wife wanted the Eel but hey we can do without it if it will be a issue, so if I may ask if it was your tank what would you do with tankmates with the Lionfish ? mind you I'd like to add some type of colorful fish and I only want maybe three fish, plz give me some suggestions I'm new to this saltwater and want to gain as much knowledge as possible.

 

[rainbow grouper]

Perhaps a trigger saxman would that be ok with a lion there are some out there that do well in 70 gallon tanks.

 

[pfcbizz]

and any suggestions on what type of trigger would be good ? and is that the only type of fish I can put in my tank ? I dont want to over populute the tank but I'd like more then one or two fish, Lol, but I dont want to put fish that wont get along or are known to kill eachother. so please excuse me for asking so many questions but I dont know and I look to others that do to help me make the right choice and a Lionfish is one fish I want and I'll add around him.

 

[pfcbizz]

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and any suggestions on what type of trigger would be good ? and is that the only type of fish I can put in my tank ? I dont want to over populute the tank but I'd like more then one or two fish, Lol, but I dont want to put fish that wont get along or are known to kill eachother. so please excuse me for asking so many questions but I dont know and I look to others that do to help me make the right choice and a Lionfish is one fish I want and I'll add around him.
and I was in a LFS and seen that they had a flameAngel in the tank with a Lionfish, so these two should be good together ? and if not plz explain.

 

[saxman]

If you want to keep an eel, you could go with a golden dwarf moray/GDM (Gymnothorax melatremus) which only reaches about 10" in captivity, so it's too small to swallow most fish.
A 70 gal is actually pretty small for ANY trigger, and the planktonic-feeders require more room, altho you'd arguably be on the hairy edge of too small for a blue jaw trigger (Xanthichthys auromarginatus). However, you could go with one of the smaller filefish such as the bristletail (Acreicthys tomentosus), which has the added bennie of eating Aiptasia. IME the bristletail is peaceful and a model citizen, but I have heard of individuals that are fin nippers.
A flame angel should be fine, as would one of the smaller squirrelfish/soldierfish species. A great fish for larger dwarf lion setups is a trio of Odontanthias borbonius anthias (blotched anthias). We've kept a trio in our small lion/scorp setup fo a couple of years now, and they're a great addition.
In choosing tankmates for your lionfish, the two major considerations are "size differential" (can the lion eat the other fish) and aggressive species/fin nippers. Also consider that long/cigar-shaped fish are easier to swallow than "taller" fish.
HTH

 

[pfcbizz]

first off I want to say thank you Saxman, and Rainbow Grouper for the advise ya'll have given me thus far, I looked up all the fish you suggested and Wow they are real costly, I am looking for something less costly, and I guess I should give up my want for a Lionfish because I dont think there is any type of fish I can have that wont kill or be killed, this sucks and now I'm kind of disappointed because I had my heart set, but I dont want to have a tank with only a Lionfish or some type of fish I dont like, I dont know what I'm going to do now.

 

[rainbow grouper]

O.k try this coral beauty angel tomato clown eight-line fairy wrasse and perhaps a sargassum fish if you are going for a FOWLR. All hardy fish and should be fine together.

 

[pfcbizz]

But none of them are good with a Lionfish ?

 

[rainbow grouper]

I don't think so.

 

[siptang]

Lion is alot of work to tell you the truth. Sacrifice one to gain many I say.