Israel accused of using Chemical Weapons?

mboswell1982

mboswell1982

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dude, do you really like the israelis would do that? i mean, hell, if they're gonna go that far, they'd just launch the nukes we supplied them the materials to make back in the 80's
 
veni vidi vici

veni vidi vici

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They are using it,but not as a weapon.They are using it as smoke shields. That's what it looks like to me anyway.Why would they use it to intentionally burn civilians when the could easily blow them to little pieces with explosive ordnance?
The USA and other armies use white phosphorus for this purpose as well.
White Phosphorus is not a considered a chemical weapon used in this fashion.
Just another attempt to make Israel to look like monsters and war mongers.
 
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dragonzim

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Direct from the article...
"White phosphorus is not considered a chemical weapon, and militaries are permitted under laws of warfare to use it in artillery shells, bombs and rockets to create smoke screens to hide troop movements as well as bright bursts in the air to illuminate battlefields at night."
 
miaheatlvr

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I know, and from the same article.
"JERUSALEM (Jan. 11) - Human Rights Watch said Sunday that Israel's military has fired artillery shells with the incendiary agent white phosphorus into Gaza and a doctor there said the chemical was suspected in the case of 10 burn victims who had skin peeling off their faces and bodies."
 
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usirchchris

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It's war...there is nothing pretty about it. This is the problem with mainstream media pumping this crap into peoples faces 24/7. War is ugly...it is what it is...not meant for civillians to derive opinions about what is good or bad. There is no pleasant killing. Human rights and war are a direct conflict of interest.
 
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dragonzim

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I wouldnt put it past Hamas to use it on their own people then send cameras to the hospitals, photograph the victims and then blame it on the Israelis.
 
stdreb27

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by DragonZim
http:///forum/post/2909733
I wouldnt put it past Hamas to use it on their own people then send cameras to the hospitals, photograph the victims and then blame it on the Israelis.
Why all they have to do is photoshop a picture and send it to CNN And they'll run it.
 
veni vidi vici

veni vidi vici

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Originally Posted by Squidward
http:///forum/post/2910405
Unfortunately the USA has also used it on Iraqis. Iraq accused of having WMD's yet the US Military used WMD's on them... Watch this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZ3ALMKVPIY
Yes we have in accordance with the Geneva Convention"CCW Protocol II" that neither Iraqi insurgents ,Hamas ,Al Qaeda,Taliban....... belong to or follow.You will get no sympathy from me when i see a enemy burnt to well done or extra crispy.
The USA does NOT target innocent civilians and i see no evidence the Israel does either unlike those organizations mentioned above.
 
darthtang aw

darthtang aw

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How much different is the end result of using white phosphorus than say showering the city with missles? I am curious.
 
darthtang aw

darthtang aw

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Squidward, why do you live here? I have not seen one post from you in support of anything the U.S. does around the world.
 
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usirchchris

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
http:///forum/post/2910436
How much different is the end result of using white phosphorus than say showering the city with missles? I am curious.
Exactly my point...and why should we even know. Media and human rights should not be anywhere near a WAR. Just not the place...you simply cannot regulate killing to a kind standard.
 
miaheatlvr

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
http:///forum/post/2910439
Squidward, why do you live here? I have not seen one post from you in support of anything the U.S. does around the world.
IT has never divulged ANY INNOCUOUS personal information about itself?.. none what soever. Not age, s3x, nor location. If I were a betting man I would bet he lives somewhere in Europe, somewhere very liberal(France, Sweden?) It just comes on here very late at night because it is early morning in Europe or Scandinavia, spews its anti american propaganda and then disappears.
 
1journeyman

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Originally Posted by Squidward
http:///forum/post/2910405
Unfortunately the USA has also used it on Iraqis. Iraq accused of having WMD's yet the US Military used WMD's on them... Watch this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZ3ALMKVPIY
Great video there Squid....
Couple of minor points, which of course will not matter one bit to you...
1. Did the guy interviewed ever explain who he is? Cause, from my limited interaction over "there" this guy has very shaky knowledge of several operational aspects... I look forward to some of the more seasoned military veterans to examine this further.
2. Civilians in Fallujah??? You do know we waited for days while the civilians were told to evacuate, right? You do know for weeks before going into the city we surrounded it and dropped leaflets and announced over loudspeakers, in Arabic, that civilians needed to evacuate.
3. "Exactly the same effect" as Napalm... That's just a stupid remark. Napalm burns. So, by default, anything that "burns" would be Napalm-like??? Come on.
4. "Americans wanted to control the oil". 5 years later I have yet to see a single barrel of stolen Iraqi oil. Have you?
5. "Saddam was not a threat to anyone".... I've met many families who would personally refute that bit of nonsense Squid.
But hey, if a video on YouTube said it then it must be true...
What's the argument here Squid? We have enough weapons currently in the Middle East that we could have reduced every brick in Fallujah to grains of sand. Yet, somehow, we are the bad guys because some combatants got burned? Would it have been better for them if we circled a couple of Spectres overhead and filled their bodies with 6,000 rounds a piece? Would it have been better if we bombed the city into dust? That, after all, is certainly allowed by the Geneva Convention. So we could kill every single combatant without risking a single US life and that is ok with you, but by going into the city, losing US soldiers, and capturing the bulk of the combatants we are the bad guys?
Good Lord Squid, what exactly does your moral compass point towards?
 
1journeyman

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Originally Posted by Squidward
http:///forum/post/2910405
Unfortunately the USA has also used it on Iraqis. Iraq accused of having WMD's yet the US Military used WMD's on them... Watch this.......
One final note of clarification... I've spent several minutes going over the UN webpage and for the life of me cannot find Phosphorous being classified as a WMD. Help me out... please post a link showing it listed as a WMD.
And, be VERY careful here Squid. For, you see, Saddam's troops had white Phosphorus smoke canisters and artillery shells. So if White Phosphorus is a Chem weapon then Saddam had chemical weapons.....
 
squidward

squidward

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Originally Posted by MiaHeatLvr
http:///forum/post/2910445
IT has never divulged ANY INNOCUOUS personal information about itself?.. none what soever. Not age, s3x, nor location. If I were a betting man I would bet he lives somewhere in Europe, somewhere very liberal(France, Sweden?) It just comes on here very late at night because it is early morning in Europe or Scandinavia, spews its anti american propaganda and then disappears.

LMAO! I like it that way.

Originally Posted by 1journeyman
http:///forum/post/2910471
Great video there Squid....
Couple of minor points, which of course will not matter one bit to you...
1. Did the guy interviewed ever explain who he is? Cause, from my limited interaction over "there" this guy has very shaky knowledge of several operational aspects... I look forward to some of the more seasoned military veterans to examine this further.
Good Lord Squid, what exactly does your moral compass point towards?
The original video was longer. I remember seeing the original video few years ago on a different site other than youtube. The 2 military dudes introduced themselves in the beginning of the original vid.
Just pointing out how horrible war is that's all. And the majority of folks probably didn't know about this so here it is.
 
squidward

squidward

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
http:///forum/post/2910439
Squidward, why do you live here? I have not seen one post from you in support of anything the U.S. does around the world.
lol I'll support as soon as the US gets back on track with OBAMA BABY!!! IN YO FACE!!!!
 
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