Large Hermit
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triggered
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Hey psusocr1,
Check out the thread "Crabs & Shrooms", go to the bottom and check out the crab posted by tnt. Is that the one you got? We just got one. It's HUGE. Our tiggers play with it. Pick it up and shake it, but he hasn't nipped at them yet. I don't know about the other critters, such as the shark, ray or starfish, however, I am sure someone will let you know.
It is a cool crab though, ballsy, but not aggressive toward anything else so far. It climbs over some of the other little crabs we have in there.
Let me know if it's like the one you got, and does anyone know what kind it is?.............Peace
Check out the thread "Crabs & Shrooms", go to the bottom and check out the crab posted by tnt. Is that the one you got? We just got one. It's HUGE. Our tiggers play with it. Pick it up and shake it, but he hasn't nipped at them yet. I don't know about the other critters, such as the shark, ray or starfish, however, I am sure someone will let you know.
It is a cool crab though, ballsy, but not aggressive toward anything else so far. It climbs over some of the other little crabs we have in there.
Let me know if it's like the one you got, and does anyone know what kind it is?.............Peace
turningtim
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Is it a Strawberry crab? I've seen them before and their like the size of a baseball. From what I understand they're pretty nasty.........
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psusocr1
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yes i think its a strawberry hermit, they say there very bold and to keep and eye on him which im doing, but i have pictures of him literally crawling over my shark like he had no clue he was there and the shark didnt evan move, he also crawls over my ray and my ray doesnt mind except when he steps on his head. he is pretty large, but seems harmless so far. I really liek him but might havw to get rid of him if he starts to mess with my starfish etc.
yes i think its a strawberry hermit, they say there very bold and to keep and eye on him which im doing, but i have pictures of him literally crawling over my shark like he had no clue he was there and the shark didnt evan move, he also crawls over my ray and my ray doesnt mind except when he steps on his head. he is pretty large, but seems harmless so far. I really liek him but might havw to get rid of him if he starts to mess with my starfish etc.
aw2
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Hey, Bobby...that's a Red Starry Hermit.
They're tough S.O.B.s and should be watched. They're very opprotunistic eaters and will pic at the ray and shark if they get the chance. They'll also take down any fish that they can catch. They'll do an excellent job of sifting the sand, but will also need to be target fed, as well, or they'll starve.
Here's one, of my two.
They're tough S.O.B.s and should be watched. They're very opprotunistic eaters and will pic at the ray and shark if they get the chance. They'll also take down any fish that they can catch. They'll do an excellent job of sifting the sand, but will also need to be target fed, as well, or they'll starve.
Here's one, of my two.
psusocr1
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hey aw,
thanks for the info, i gave him a ALRGE piece of squidd AND shrimp yesterday and he ate it liek a champ, i figure if i feed him everyday liek if eed the rest of my animals he should be happy, as is aid i dunno if im going to keep him yet or not but hes doing fine as of now
thanks for the info, i gave him a ALRGE piece of squidd AND shrimp yesterday and he ate it liek a champ, i figure if i feed him everyday liek if eed the rest of my animals he should be happy, as is aid i dunno if im going to keep him yet or not but hes doing fine as of now
aw2
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I'd hang on to him, if you have the room.
They're great cleaners, for aggressive tanks. They'll hold their own against aggressive fish and they'll do a little bit of everything...sand sifting, rock cleaning, eating leftovers, etc.
They do get large though...I've seen one that was as big as a football.
They dont do well with the same species, in smaller tanks. When my 200 was setup, the 2 were just fine. When I moved them to the 90, one killed the other, just for the hell of it.
They're great cleaners, for aggressive tanks. They'll hold their own against aggressive fish and they'll do a little bit of everything...sand sifting, rock cleaning, eating leftovers, etc.
They do get large though...I've seen one that was as big as a football.
They dont do well with the same species, in smaller tanks. When my 200 was setup, the 2 were just fine. When I moved them to the 90, one killed the other, just for the hell of it.
lion_crazz
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Wow, I would get rid of that thing. I had a few of those and they killed my 15" engineer goby and my volitan lion. They ripped both of their tails to shreds...
psusocr1
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im actually suprised hearing how mean they are, maybe i just havent had him long enough to see that side of him, but i have pics as is aid of him literally sitting on top of my shark and ray, also my lion just swisms away from him, but he really hasnt done much yet!! hmm im soo nervous bout him but it is a bigass tank sooo???
lion_crazz
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I had my few for 3 or 4 months and they were very aggressive eaters. They would rush to the silversides that my lion dropped and scoop them up with no problem. All of a sudden one week they just went after both fish. I hope you do not have the same experience.
aw2
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Originally Posted by lion_crazz
Wow, I would get rid of that thing. I had a few of those and they killed my 15" engineer goby and my volitan lion. They ripped both of their tails to shreds...
They wont go after fish bigger than them, unless something is wrong with the fish (unhealthy, dying, dead, etc.). There was something else wrong with your fish before the Red Starrys got to it.
Wow, I would get rid of that thing. I had a few of those and they killed my 15" engineer goby and my volitan lion. They ripped both of their tails to shreds...
They wont go after fish bigger than them, unless something is wrong with the fish (unhealthy, dying, dead, etc.). There was something else wrong with your fish before the Red Starrys got to it.
lion_crazz
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Originally Posted by AW2
They wont go after fish bigger than them, unless something is wrong with the fish (unhealthy, dying, dead, etc.). There was something else wrong with your fish before the Red Starrys got to it.
Both fish were perfectly fine before the incidents. They were both eating and acting as they normally would. None of the other fish died after I removed the hermits from the tank and I did nothing different to my tank. Following your logic, my other fish should have eventually died as well, if something was wrong in my tank to make them unhealthy such as high nitrates or a fluctuating pH (since I had previously had both the lion and goby for over a year.
They wont go after fish bigger than them, unless something is wrong with the fish (unhealthy, dying, dead, etc.). There was something else wrong with your fish before the Red Starrys got to it.
Both fish were perfectly fine before the incidents. They were both eating and acting as they normally would. None of the other fish died after I removed the hermits from the tank and I did nothing different to my tank. Following your logic, my other fish should have eventually died as well, if something was wrong in my tank to make them unhealthy such as high nitrates or a fluctuating pH (since I had previously had both the lion and goby for over a year.
aw2
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Originally Posted by lion_crazz
Following your logic, my other fish should have eventually died as well, if something was wrong in my tank to make them unhealthy such as high nitrates or a fluctuating pH (since I had previously had both the lion and goby for over a year.
Not necessarily. I've kept Red Starry's for years and know, without a doubt, that they're not able to take down fish larger than themselves...smaller fish, absolutely. Now, if we were talking about a football sized Red Starry Hermit, then I might be inclined to believe it was possible.
I came home from work one day to find one of my Red Starry's eating my 5" Queen Trigger and the Queen was perfectly fine the night before. After I pulled the carcass from the tank, no other fish died.
Red Starry's are not capable of pulling down and holding a perfectly healthy large fish, while devouring it. They're opprotunistic feeders...not avid hunters/predators.
Following your logic, my other fish should have eventually died as well, if something was wrong in my tank to make them unhealthy such as high nitrates or a fluctuating pH (since I had previously had both the lion and goby for over a year.
Not necessarily. I've kept Red Starry's for years and know, without a doubt, that they're not able to take down fish larger than themselves...smaller fish, absolutely. Now, if we were talking about a football sized Red Starry Hermit, then I might be inclined to believe it was possible.
I came home from work one day to find one of my Red Starry's eating my 5" Queen Trigger and the Queen was perfectly fine the night before. After I pulled the carcass from the tank, no other fish died.
Red Starry's are not capable of pulling down and holding a perfectly healthy large fish, while devouring it. They're opprotunistic feeders...not avid hunters/predators.
lion_crazz
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Originally Posted by AW2
I came home from work one day to find one of my Red Starry's eating my 5" Queen Trigger and the Queen was perfectly fine the night before. After I pulled the carcass from the tank, no other fish died.
So why did the queen die then?
I came home from work one day to find one of my Red Starry's eating my 5" Queen Trigger and the Queen was perfectly fine the night before. After I pulled the carcass from the tank, no other fish died.
So why did the queen die then?
aw2
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Originally Posted by lion_crazz
So why did the queen die then?
Dont know...all part of the mystery.
I also had a 10" Red Coris Wrasse that died from brain hemoraging. The Red Starry got him too...gutted him like he was at a sushi bar.
I'm not saying it's not possible for a full sized Red Starry to take down fish, but smaller ones...like the ones we keep in our tanks...are not designed to grab on to healthy, capable fish and devour them. Their designed to be scavengers and to eat whatever they find that's nto able to get away.
So why did the queen die then?
Dont know...all part of the mystery.
I also had a 10" Red Coris Wrasse that died from brain hemoraging. The Red Starry got him too...gutted him like he was at a sushi bar.
I'm not saying it's not possible for a full sized Red Starry to take down fish, but smaller ones...like the ones we keep in our tanks...are not designed to grab on to healthy, capable fish and devour them. Their designed to be scavengers and to eat whatever they find that's nto able to get away.
lion_crazz
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Yeah, but come on, look at the claws on these guys. I am sure you know how a lionfish and engineer goby are. They are not what I would call "active" swimmers. All it really takes is for the hermits to latch onto the fish, like they did with mine, and create a wound with thier claws, and thus, like you said, now there is something wrong with the fish and its immune system is weakened.
aw2
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They're claws are not designed to tear/rip flesh and they're not designed to grab and hang on to. A completely healthy Enginner Goby or Volitan Lion, while not fast/active swimmers, cant easily get away with short bursts of speed. I've seen my 15" Volitan swim 4' in the blink of an eye.
When they catch a wounded/diseased/dying fish, they'll first start at the gills, since it's easy access and they tear that up. Then, I've seen them pick at the sides of fish...they pick the scales off and then it's easier to get through the soft tissue. But, it takes hours for that to happen.
When they catch a wounded/diseased/dying fish, they'll first start at the gills, since it's easy access and they tear that up. Then, I've seen them pick at the sides of fish...they pick the scales off and then it's easier to get through the soft tissue. But, it takes hours for that to happen.