led vs all other lighting

242bats

Member
i am having truble with my lighting and need to do somthing ASPA. is there anyone outthere using led and if so wath do you think of it and is it worth the money.
thanks you the help
 

nikesb

Active Member
if you do led, just remember that you will need high powered 3w cree leds or something like the evolution leds with is a a bunch of 1w leds in a bunch that creates enough par. you cant expect to buy small strips like ecoxotic stunners and have them sustain your corals. therefore, generally speaking, greater price will lead to better quality and the right choice for LEDs. what size tank do u have
 

242bats

Member
i have 180gal mixed reed, the lighting that i am having the truble with is one 400w hd 10,000k and four T12 vho 110w each actinic blue.
i am not happy with how often i am having to change the lamps and the ballasts keep going out every 18months or so.
if the leds work like thay claim if will save money in the long run.
what thay have is a 72"x18" premade system that has 120 1.5w hight output leds in three colors, white, blue, and red.
thay have a par of 800 total and 2500 lumens per mod? the system is a custom build to my tank.
thanks
 

242bats

Member
btw this system in only $650 to my front door. that is what is making this sound beter and beter for me.
still would like some of your input to make sure this is a good thing to try.
thanks
 

242bats

Member
i would say that the big ?????? would be will the leds make things grow and sustain life in a reef tank
anyone

thanks
 

2quills

Well-Known Member
What brand of light is this? I can tell you right now the lumen and par output they are claiming is not going to cut the mustard for your tank. You might be able to keep some softies but that's probably about it. There is a reason why the led fixtures that are truly capable of sustaining reefs cost thousands of dollars. I can assure you that this fixture, whichever one it is, is not going to be nearly as good as what you have on the tank right now.
I'd still like to see this fixture you're talking about though.
 

242bats

Member
the name of the system is Auraled Leds there wedsite is down right now but say it will up soon. thay have some of the systems on ebay right now. with some of the info on the systems. i was also looking at some of the other led systems out there and most of what i have found is about the same output for a lot more money??????? still not sure what to do. but i have no lights at this point and need to do somthing ASAP.
thanks
 
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eric b 125

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Mark Vera spoke about LED's at our club meet a few months ago. As far as his spiel went, LED's are a technology with crazy potential, but as far as what most people are able to afford most of the fixtures "aren't there yet". A lot of it has to do with the Bin Lots the actual LEDs come from, and the type of doping material used. Some of his talk was over my head but I got the main gist of it. I wish I absorbed more of the talk, but I went home that night and was glad that I have MH.
 

snakeblitz33

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I'm also interested in all of this chatter about LEDs. I really like the concept, but I'm still unsure about the technology. As you said, I believe a system that is able to sustain a reef aquarium would logically cost thousands of dollars. I might as well hold off on my little panorama LED system and go ahead and get an HQI metal halide in its place.
 
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eric b 125

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dont get me wrong, from what i understand there are LED fixtures available that are crazy good. IMO, from hearing Mark Vera and talking to him, at this point in time the best place for LED's on my tank are for supplemental lighting. once companies are able to handle the quality control issues then i will definitely consider buying a fixture. the price should go down a bit, but even if it doesnt, i still think the technology is worth it.
 

2quills

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Aww come on guys. You aren't going to let a little thing like bin codes get deter ya are you?

That's exactly why I refuse to spend thousands of dollars on something that I can build myself for less than half the cost and know what I'm getting. I don't know of any manufacturers that are posting actual bin codes on the emitters they're using. But some of the better fixtures like Aqua Illuminations we already know they are capable of keeping all types of corals so I feel it's safe to assume that they're using emitters from a fairly good bin. But it's buyer beware. Same goes for DIY, you should really stay away from places that aren't advertising bins, especially when you think you find a quality deal on ebay or something like that. You never know what you're gonna get, probably a mixed grab bag of emitters from different bins. Fortunately places like cutters out of australia actually has real bin numbers advertised on their products. Even rapid is pretty good and has done their homework and is selling the good bin crees like the XPG R5's or the XRE-Q5's that produce the best luminous flux in those series.
 
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