Light Fixture GCFI tripped off everytime

raptor72

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I have two WavePoint 36" T-5 light fixtures with built in GFCI units on the plugs that I've tried plugging into timers to turn off/on automatically. The problem is whenever the timer shuts off, it trips the circuit on the GFCI, and when it's time to turn on, it won't unless the RESET switch is manually turned back on. Has anyone come across this? How can I fix this?
 

flower

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Originally Posted by Raptor72 http:///forum/thread/384156/light-fixture-gcfi-tripped-off-everytime#post_3364465
I have two WavePoint 36" T-5 light fixtures with built in GCFI units on the plugs that I've tried plugging into timers to turn off/on automatically. The problem is whenever the timer shuts off, it trips the circuit on the GCFI, and when it's time to turn on, it won't unless the RESET switch is manually turned back on. Has anyone come across this? How can I fix this?


My GFCI trips when my MHs kick on...I have to turn one lamp off manually every night, and when the timer kicks on all is well. My Coralife has a pulse type of bulb and I think
that the first bulb lights then a PULSE to ignite the second bulb trips it. GFCI outlets are supposed to detect any power surges and shut off with the least amount of any change. Oddly I can manually turn on the second bulb, after the first is already lit. Each MH lamp has its own ballast with a switch so my method works for me..it is a bother but it works... I don’t know about T5s, my little T5HO has a single switch.
If the GFCI is a part of your lights...it may be a failsafe to make sure you plug it into an outlet and not a strip (or timer). No GFCI will come back on until you reset it.
 

raptor72

Member
It almost makes me want to ziptie the RESET button down and put it back on the timer. ( I know, I know....)
 

ibew41

Active Member
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Originally Posted by Flower http:///forum/thread/384156/light-fixture-gcfi-tripped-off-everytime#post_3364473

My GFCI trips when my MHs kick on...I have to turn one lamp off manually every night, and when the timer kicks on all is well. My Coralife has a pulse type of bulb and I think
that the first bulb lights then a PULSE to ignite the second bulb trips it. GFCI outlets are supposed to detect any power surges and shut off with the least amount of any change. Oddly I can manually turn on the second bulb, after the first is already lit. Each MH lamp has its own ballast with a switch so my method works for me..it is a bother but it works... I don’t know about T5s, my little T5HO has a single switch.
If the GFCI is a part of your lights...it may be a failsafe to make sure you plug it into an outlet and not a strip (or timer). No GFCI will come back on until you reset it.
gfic do do not trip on surges but a loss of current between neutral and hot.If this is part of your unit then either the gfi is bad(happens) or a ballast can be bad sockets also get salt creep
 

acrylic51

Active Member
The cheaper built timers can cause an issue and don't like that sudden "punch" from the ballast being fired.....
 

raptor72

Member
I picked up an Aqualight Digital Power Center with Daytime and Nightime Outlets. I'll let you know how it works with the GFCI lights.
 

scsinet

Active Member
Electronic ballasts have a habit of tripping GFIs when nothing is actually wrong. In electrical circles this is known as a "nuisance trip."
It is caused by harmonics in the power line, often during inital powerup or powerdown. It's somewhat random, depending on a huge number of factors. Replacing the GFI may or may not help, and even replacing the ballast may or may not help. The harmonics can confuse the logic circuitry in the GFI, causing it to erroneously trip.
One thing you may try is putting a high quality EMI filter between the lighting system and the GFI. If you have a separate timer, you'd plug the lights into the timer, then install the filter between the timer and the GFI. This may stop the problem... or it may not ...
The type I'd try to get is made by Tripp-Lite, under the ISOBAR name. One of their smaller models, such as the ISOBAR2-6, would be what I'd try. ISOBAR units are expensive, I think the MSRP on the latter one is like $60, but you can usually get them far below that by poking around online or on that famous site where you bid on stuff.
Keep in mind that these units are often marketed as "surge protectors" but the surge protection is not what's important, it's the EMI/RFI filters that matter, so don't try to go to the store and pick up a surge protector, they will not help unless they have that key function. Also keep in mind that doing this may not solve your problem. You pretty much need to try it and see.
If that doesn't work, the only alternative would be to run your lights without GFI protection, but this should be considered a last resort if you have no other options.
 

raptor72

Member
Another big FAIL. The same thing happened when the timer would cycle. I e-mailed WavePoint on Friday regarding a solution (no phone # available).
 

raptor72

Member
I received an E-mail back from WavePoint today, here's what they had to say;
I am sorry to hear you are having difficulties with one of our lighting fixtures. We have had some light fixtures that the GFCI is to sensitive for some timers. A new gfci can be sent out at no charge rather than sending in or returning a complete hood. To do this you will need to remove the 4 screws on the back of the existing gfci and reattach the cable to the new gfci. If this is ok please send a copy of your receipt and I will mail one out ASAP. If you have any further questions feel free to contact me directly via this e-mail address or at 805-383-3566 ext 102
Regards,
Kevin Shiotani
Wave-point
 

raptor72

Member
UPDATE: I received my replacement GFCI plugs today and switched them out and plugged them into the timers. Everything works fine after manually cycling the timer. Apparently the original ones were a bit too sensitive.
 
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