Looking for some suggestions

pnzrdvsn

New Member
Looking for a couple suggestions I've been browsing on here reading and learning some stuff and browsing around on the net for a tank. It will be awhile before i actually go out and purchase a tank and all the equipment.
I know i want a FOWLR tank 100-150 gal tank.
I know want an eel and maybe a lion and maybe an angel.
I'd like to run a sump/refugium , protein skimmer and to get a ro/di unit.
Basically what I'd like to know is roughly what else i will need pumps/other filters/ power heads/lights ? and roughly how much it will cost. And suggestions on what brands that are reliable.
 

chrisb430

Member
it can be thousands over time depending what way you go. sometimes its little things like food for your fish you want. I had a grouper he was like 10+ dollars a month just on food. Bigger the tank the more you spend. you may spend 50+ on your lion and eel alone. Sumps are 300+ lights can be 150+ your tank will be at least 250+ substrate 100+ Wont really need power heads or other filters. RODI unit 150+ your already at around 1000 and you have not done anything Yet. Need test kits, salt, Live rock. dont mean to scare you but if you have the money by all means its worth every penny. do some research before yo spend more then you need to!!!!
 

flower

Well-Known Member

Getting started is the biggest cost, the bigger the tank, the more it costs to get started…upkeep is not so bad, but they keep coming up with cool stuff to buy.

Fish tank, stand (canopy?) That is the fist buy and choice to make....prices depend on brand and if you buy new or used. I got my 90g for $400.00 with stand and canopy.
Power heads about 3 to 4 and they run from $70.00 to $200.00 each depending on brand and type. I recommend the Koralia brand, they have a magnet to hold it in place. For the larger tanks you need larger power heads, the bigger the power head the more it costs…do not skimp. The cheap come out expensive in this hobby.
Live rock: it runs $10.00 to $7.00 per pound and you need almost as much rock in pound as you have gallons in water. For example: a 90g tank needs about 80lbs of rock. The good news is that you can by allot of dead rock (base rock) which is about $3.00 per pound, and put live rock on top, it will seed the base rock over time. I used all live fiji rock $10.00 per pound.
Lights are your most expensive investment. If you know that you only want fish, the PC lights, the cheapest are fine which run around $250.00. However if you ever plan on a reef tank, or keeping an anemone…get the best lights you can afford right off. T5s or Metal Halides. Which run around $1000.00…My MH bulbs run $70.00 each and must be replaced every 10 to 12 months.
Get a good skimmer, good luck finding one…I have yet to find one I really like. I paid $250.00 for a coralife…I do not recommend it.
I know nothing about sumps or wet/dry I use 2 canister filters on my 90g, I paid about $250.00 for each one. So you are on your own to find out more on filtration.
Substrate, I used live sand $40.00 for a 40lb bag, I needed two bags for my 90g.
You need Marine test kits, Hydrometer or refractometer, thermometer, mag float, heaters and salt mix. BOOKS! Prices will depend on brands.
My 90g cost me $3000.00 by the time I was all set…Then came the joy of building my reef and getting my fish and the money pit saga continues.
Auto Top Off unit cost me $90.00 it was well worth it. Also needed a 10g holding tank for RO water and a utility pump for it...which I also use for water changes.
I purchased two plastic 37g garbage cans, I marked them FISH ONLY, and I use them for water changes and emergencies.
RO unit ...I rent mine for $39.99, I have very bad well water, and they change my filters..it is a 5 stage industrial unit like what they have at Wal-Mart. It has a faucet on my kitchen sink, and a holding tank under it in the cabinet. You can get one much cheaper than I did by buying your own. look into the cost of filter replacement on whaever unit you go for.
I think that covers it...hope this helps.
Oh and a LFS guy told me I could start a 55g saltwater tank for 600.00
I already had the tank and wanted to switch from fresh to salt. $1000.00 dollars later...I was still spending, my husband and I were not laughing, but we were hooked. That was years ago.
 

pnzrdvsn

New Member
Im in no real hurry, just figure all start collecting as time goes on.. and eventually have all the stuff to get it going.. Thanks for the info
 

easy e

New Member
The cheapest way to go is to look for a used setup. This hobby can be much more costly and time consuming than anticipated for most beginners, Many get frustrated and want to bail after a while, so it's not umcommon to find an entire system for a fraction of what it would cost new.
I got a 55 with stand, lights, can filter, UGF, substrate, rocks, pumps, nets, gravel vac, salt, food, and even a couple fish, all for $200. I had an old 15 laying around that I got drilled out and made into a refugium. Built a stand for it with some spare 2X4's. Bought some fittings and hose from the HW store, sponge filter, sand, pump, and a handful of caulerpa from the LFS. Ba-da-bing, you got yourself a vey basic, bare bones fish only with fuge for right around $350.
Of course I've upgraded a bunch since then, but this was enough to get me started. I'm still using this same setup today, but over time I added a skimmer, got better stands, better lights, etc. I'd say I still have less than $1000 in it, not counting livestock. For a 100-150 you're probably looking at several hundred more than what than I spent bare minimum.
I'm probably going to get blasted here for even suggesting you can get by on the cheap. I'm not saying you shouldn't buy top quality equipment if you can afford it. I wish I could, but, I simply don't have the budget. I'm just trying to provide you with a low end figure because you'll probably have all kinds of people trying to sell you on the high end. If you plan on keeping exotic species that require optimal lighting and pristine water conditions, then by all means do not penny pinch. If all you want is some cool fish to look at, like maybe an Eel, a Lion and an Angel, you don't have to break the bank to get that done. My fish are happy, healthy and don't even seem to realize they're not swimming around in a $3000 system.
As for the skimmer, I have an Aqua C Remora that has always worked great for me. They cost a bout $200 new, but I dont think they're big enough for a 100-150. I recently read about a revolutionary type of skimmer that supposedly "improves efficiency and performance by orders of magnitude". It's called the bubble plate and you can read about it here.
http://bb.wetwebmedia.com/express.ph...ffa61b25f0074d
 
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