Lowes MH lights? Any good?

mihifisi

Member
Cruising Lowes last night, so for giggles I asked the local helper if the carried MH lights.
THEY DO!!! So I buy one of the 175 watt bulbs. Take it home, try it out, works.
So, am I missing anything w/ these bulbs? The price is below even online pricing.
Why are these not being used?
Thanks,
Danny
 

millerman

Member
i may be wrong but i do not think i am. there was a thread not to long ago about this and i think some people disagreed with the use because it is a different spectrum....just remember you get what you pay for deal sounds great but in the end i dont think it is the correct spectrum. others will post soon.
 

bailey52

Member
Yes it does have something to do with that... what K rating does the bulb have?? prob 6,500 which isnt good... But you know I havent tried the cheap MH bulbs, but I wouldnt be surprised if they do work to some extent
 

nytrillium

Member
do a search for Lowes Halide or something like that and you will find it. The color spectrum is all wrong, probably in the 4500 range or maybe 6500 if you are lucky. It will work but it wont look pretty and you wont keep your corals and stuff happy. Needless to say you are just enviting algae to thrive by using those. The bulbs are no good but if you want to use the fixtures from lowes go ahead, they will work you will just have to get the proper bulb.
 

mihifisi

Member
I thought as much, But this is for a fish only tank. I just want the "shimmer" of the water in the house. Plus I have a couple anemone crabs that would benefit from the extra lighting. So it is a low cost lighting option. But if the algae will be a problem. Then not a deal, period.
With that being said where can you get good MH bulbs, at a decent price?
Thanks,
Danny
 

scsinet

Active Member
Yeah I started that thread. The bulbs in the fixtures I found for that "amazing deal" were 4K bulbs. Those are completely wrong for a reef tank. I posted the deal because they will work fine for stuff that doesn't need a specific spectrum, such as a fuge, FW, or FO/FOWLR system, or to throw away the bulb and use a bulb designed for aquariums (it's still a good deal for the ballast/cap/socket). Even then, I can see those bulbs growing nuisance algae if you use them on any display tank.
Unfortunately, everybody thought I was just some dummy trying to put these things over a reef with the bulb that came with them... so make no mistake when I say this.. the cheap bulbs you get at the local home improvement conglomorate branch are not suitable. They have the wrong spectrum and they drift far too far off of what they are rated at anyway. Don't use them to try to grow corals.
 

nytrillium

Member
E*bay has some cheap bulbs if you want to look. You can usually find them for like $40. No garuntee on the quality though. I got some 150 watt CA DE bulbs from a guy on there for $39 plus shipping, but they were the wrong length. I'd say you could probably find what your looking for in 175 watt though. Other than that, your going to pay out the A** for the "specialty" bulbs for an aquarium. Thats just the way that most things are. they mark up the stuff just because its specific for a hobby. good luck though.
 

mihifisi

Member
Thanks, I am still learning the ins and outs. Just like the South Down sand. They will and do jerk the prices up!!
Thanks
 

devaji108

Member
HUMM has anyone out have any good luck buying the cheaper MH light s form lows or HD and replacing the bulb? I am starting to look 4 MH light for my 240 GAL reef that 92"long so I could us
soming cheaper
thanks
 

scsinet

Active Member
By "lights" I assume you mean the fixture? A MH ballast is an MH ballast. The ones that run aquarium lights are no different than the ones in a yard light, for instance. The aquarium industry generally does more brisk business with the more efficient ballasts for several reasons:
1. They are more energy efficient. The reasons here are obvious.
2. The lamps generally last longer. Over a long enough period if time, the cost difference of the ballast pays off.
3. They run the bulbs cooler. Less heat in the water.
4. The ballast themselves are cooler. MH lights are designed to be run in large open areas. People generally don't want a ballast that heats their rooms.
5. They are quieter. No hum.
However, if you are trying to go cheaper, you can absolutely use any old MH fixture by either using it on it's own or gutting it an DYIing a fixture out of the parts.
The only thing you have to remember is that MH bulbs come in two flavors, Probe Start and Pulse Start and you have to get a ballast that matches. I can't remember which is more common, but if you use a SE (Single Ended) lamp, then just about any Lowes/HD/Cheapo fixture designed to run the same wattage bulb should light it.
Just don't mix wattages.
 

nytrillium

Member
just to give you an example of the difference in efficiency between electronic and core&coil ballasts (the ones in the fixtures from lowes or HD):
I have an electronic ballast for a 150watt HQI bulb. They draw 156 watts to run the bulb. A core and coil ballast to run the same type of bulb draws close to 260 watts. The extra wattage draw from the core and coil is converted to head, making it much less efficient.
 
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jdragunas

Guest
uhhhh... just a thought, but why waste that much $$$ on a fish only tank??? low cost lighting would be florescent lights or PC (which is too much IMO for a fish only tank)...
 

mihifisi

Member
Thanks WAX32,
It may be silly but it looks so good it my living room at night w/ all the lights off cept' my tank lights!!!
Thanks,
D
 
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jdragunas

Guest
yeah, i guess so... Well you might as well get corals to go with it!!!
 
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jdragunas

Guest
lol! i love excuses like that "honey, a lionfish can't go in our tank, we have to get another bigger one"...
 

promisetbg

Active Member
If MH bulbs and ballasts from HD were good for reefs...we would all get them there.

They may look Ok to you..but the corals may 'see' things differently.
 
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jdragunas

Guest
the bulbs are not ok, but the ballasts are the same as any other ballast... You just have to make sure the bulbs are in the correct spectrum.
 
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