lps receeding

renogaw

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i've had some frogspawn for at least a year, they were constantly splitting, etc.
recently though, some of the skin that goes around the stoney part has started receeding.
I'll admit, my calcium was quite low, and it's been a while since i did a water change (before last night). would these two issues cause the tissue to receed?
they've been flourishing under pc's the whole time.
 
Frogspawn make a living so to speak with light. I have done a boat load of research over the past 6 weeks as i have just purchased my first.
From what i have heard/read FS's use light to convert things into food. They also are a coral that uses trace elements added into your water AKA calcium etc... But in the same instance they are hardy and should bounce back quite quickly in the right conditions. I would stay on a schedule with water changes and trace elements, the rest should work itself out. Hope this helps....
 

perfectdark

Active Member
Originally Posted by renogaw
http:///forum/post/2622747
i've had some frogspawn for at least a year, they were constantly splitting, etc.
recently though, some of the skin that goes around the stoney part has started receeding.
I'll admit, my calcium was quite low, and it's been a while since i did a water change (before last night). would these two issues cause the tissue to receed?
they've been flourishing under pc's the whole time.
I would say yes, a sudden change in chemistry from the norm as you admitted to a lower than normal calc level may induce a negative response from your more sensitive corals. This is all under the assumption that everything else looks ok, no brown goo expelling or slime sloughing off. IMO I think once your perameters are back up to par you will see an improvment. Haveing a little one sure takes its toll on ya huh? LOL I know the feeling...
 

mx#28

Active Member
Originally Posted by renogaw
http:///forum/post/2622747
i've had some frogspawn for at least a year, they were constantly splitting, etc.
recently though, some of the skin that goes around the stoney part has started receeding.
I'll admit, my calcium was quite low, and it's been a while since i did a water change (before last night). would these two issues cause the tissue to receed?
they've been flourishing under pc's the whole time.

How low was the calcium? Have you added anything new or changed anything in the tank? Have you replaced your bulbs on time?
 

renogaw

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bulbs were replaced in january, calcium was down to 350.
i had also just added a hammer, but on the oppostite side of the tank. that looks like it is doing ok, but a galaxea that i took out of my QT and is no where near these other two is receeding also.
no brown goo.
a couple of my zoos aren't looking hot, and i've gotten a little cyano behind my frag rack along the glass (probably not enough flow behind it).
yes, the baby had sucked out all my tank maintenance time, almost to the point where i want to sell it.
 

mx#28

Active Member
Calcium at 350ppm shouldn't cause any issues like that.
Any leather corals of any sort in the tank?
 

ci11337

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It might just be growing upward and the flesh is going up with the skeleton exposing some previously covered skeleton.(if you know what i mean )
 

renogaw

Active Member
Originally Posted by MX#28
http:///forum/post/2622951
Calcium at 350ppm shouldn't cause any issues like that.
Any leather corals of any sort in the tank?
I have a kenya and a green sinularia/napthea (not sure which it is, people id it both ways).
i have baby frags of the sinularia all over the place in the tank... would this be affecting them?
Originally Posted by ci11337

http:///forum/post/2623026
It might just be growing upward and the flesh is going up with the skeleton exposing some previously covered skeleton.(if you know what i mean )
i dont *think* the skeletons are growing, but is a possibility. but there are the baby offshoots being left behind...would they do this normally?
 

mx#28

Active Member
Originally Posted by renogaw
http:///forum/post/2623038
i have baby frags of the sinularia all over the place in the tank... would this be affecting them?
Yes. Sinularia are toxic, especially to Euphyllia. I've got a Sinularia dura colony in my tank with a few hammers and even on seperate sides of the tank there's trouble if the flow changes at all. I have to be very careful to have the hammer upstream of the leather or it will start to recede. The problem is amplified when the leather sheds.
 
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cmaxwell39

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Do you run carbon? If not try running some carbon especially with the leathers in the tank.
 

renogaw

Active Member
Originally Posted by nietzsche
http:///forum/post/2623248
what is your alkalinity at?
it was a tad low, but no where near as low as the calcium was.
Originally Posted by MX#28
http:///forum/post/2623286
Yes. Sinularia are toxic, especially to Euphyllia. I've got a Sinularia dura colony in my tank with a few hammers and even on seperate sides of the tank there's trouble if the flow changes at all. I have to be very careful to have the hammer upstream of the leather or it will start to recede. The problem is amplified when the leather sheds.
hmm... i'll get rid of the sinularia--its a nice sweet sourse of money at the LFS though, but not if it's killing my corals. lfs gives me $15 a small frag. I have my QT... maybe i can grow it in there.
Originally Posted by cmaxwell39

http:///forum/post/2623528
Do you run carbon? If not try running some carbon especially with the leathers in the tank.
i do run carbon, but only in a bag in the sump.
 

ci11337

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"i dont *think* the skeletons are growing, but is a possibility. but there are the baby offshoots being left behind...would they do this normally?"
I *think* they do. I know thats how these corals grow and i think when they grow fast we notice the white exposed skeleton which has been left behind. IMO, you have nothing to worry about, just keep an eye on it, if the flesh starts receding THEN you have a problem.
 

bang guy

Moderator
Originally Posted by renogaw
http:///forum/post/2623886
it was a tad low, but no where near as low as the calcium was.
Alkalinity is very important to corals. So is food. Is it a case where the coral has grown but the amount of available food hasn't increased?
 

renogaw

Active Member
Originally Posted by ci11337
http:///forum/post/2624333
"i dont *think* the skeletons are growing, but is a possibility. but there are the baby offshoots being left behind...would they do this normally?"
I *think* they do. I know thats how these corals grow and i think when they grow fast we notice the white exposed skeleton which has been left behind. IMO, you have nothing to worry about, just keep an eye on it, if the flesh starts receding THEN you have a problem.
I'll take pictures :) i thought the babies were there just in case the heads died, i didn't think they reproduced this way.
Originally Posted by Bang Guy

http:///forum/post/2624342
Alkalinity is very important to corals. So is food. Is it a case where the coral has grown but the amount of available food hasn't increased?
I've never fed my frogspawns. i have though this week started using reef chili and squirting some at them.
 

bang guy

Moderator
Originally Posted by renogaw
http:///forum/post/2623886
i do run carbon, but only in a bag in the sump.

Tape a piece of white paper on one end of the tank. Look at the paper from the other end of the aquarium to see the true color of your water. This is a really good way to determine if your carbon is effective the way you're using it.
 

bang guy

Moderator
Originally Posted by renogaw
http:///forum/post/2624358
I'll take pictures :) i thought the babies were there just in case the heads died, i didn't think they reproduced this way.

Your statement is true.
You can chisel off the babies and grow them out though
 

renogaw

Active Member
Originally Posted by Bang Guy
http:///forum/post/2624359
Tape a piece of white paper on one end of the tank. Look at the paper from the other end of the aquarium to see the true color of your water. This is a really good way to determine if your carbon is effective the way you're using it.
this is a good trick... what should i be looking for? i know the color of my water change water is more greenish than anything.
 

renogaw

Active Member
Originally Posted by Bang Guy
http:///forum/post/2624362
Your statement is true.
You can chisel off the babies and grow them out though

i've tried that. i always lose the babies somewhere in the tank. my hammer has a ton of them, maybe i'll try this on it.
 
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