Marroon Clown

btldreef

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Originally Posted by Becky913
http:///forum/post/3196213
I have a marroon clown fish. Can I add another of the same?
You can try. How long has your one been alone? Maroon clowns are one of the more aggressive clownfish out there. If you're set on having a second one, it MUST be smaller than the one you own now.
 

becky913

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I have had it for 3 years. I was at a local fish store and this guy said he added one to his tank and its gong well, but I didn't think it was a good idea. Now if I do get a really small one and try it, they will then decide who is male and female correct?
 

btldreef

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Originally Posted by Becky913
http:///forum/post/3196240
I have had it for 3 years. I was at a local fish store and this guy said he added one to his tank and its gong well, but I didn't think it was a good idea. Now if I do get a really small one and try it, they will then decide who is male and female correct?
If you've had one clown all by itself for 3 years, it's a female already. By buying a smaller one, it'll take the role of the male. There's no guarantee that your clown is going to accept it, especially if she's been alone for this long, but a smaller one is the only way you can even attempt to make it work. Some people have had luck, others, not so much. Personally, I would not risk it. I think your LFS guy was just trying anything to make a sale.
 

small triggers

Active Member
I had my female and male alone in seperate tanks for about 2 years,,, i then consolidated tanks and put them together,,, its was tail swatting and bowing at first sight, lol. You jsut MUST make sure that the one you get is about half the size of your current one and if you have had her in the same tank for three years, try re-arranging some of the rocks when you add the male (and turn the lights out do it before the night cycle anyways so he'll have all night to get comfotable)
 

btldreef

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Originally Posted by small triggers
http:///forum/post/3196326
I had my female and male alone in seperate tanks for about 2 years,,, i then consolidated tanks and put them together,,, its was tail swatting and bowing at first sight, lol. You jsut MUST make sure that the one you get is about half the size of your current one and if you have had her in the same tank for three years, try re-arranging some of the rocks when you add the male (and turn the lights out do it before the night cycle anyways so he'll have all night to get comfotable)
I agree about redecorating!
Just curous Small Triggers, how did you manage to keep a male by itself for two years without it changing to female? Mine changed to female in less than 6 months...
 

mr.clownfish

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i dont think a male would turn into a female if it is alone in a tank. i dont know how long the proses takes for a --- changing but after adding another clown the larger one changes ---. i have a gold strip maroon that was about an inch long when i got it and had it for about a year in a 30gal tank. it was maybe around an inch and a half when i got it a 4in gold strip maroon, and they paired up in about 2 weeks with absolutely NO violence at all. idk if that was just luck but IMO a clown dosent change --- by being all alone in a tank.(especially the smaller ones). now they share a large carpet anemone. now im just waiting for eggs.
 

srfisher17

Active Member
Originally Posted by Nw2Salt08
http:///forum/post/3197022
Once a male turns into a female it can not go back to a male. It will stay female it's entire life.
Right. (Except for the San Francisco sub-species).
I think the chances of a grown, female Maroon accepting any other clown are almost zero. Years ago,I had a big female kill another maroon while it was still in the lfs bag. To get a pair of Maroons, you have to buy them as a mated pair or get some juvis and let them pair off. I guess she could accept the newcomer, if it was a mature male...doubtful. A female maroon is one of the most aggressive fish, when it comes to other clowns, that I know of.
 

skate020

Member
by 3 years its almost deff a female.
you could try it. if the male is smaller and trys not to be to couragous to the female it probs will work.
just one of them things were you need to try and hope. it depends on th individual
 

nw2salt08

Active Member
When it comes to the female maroon clown she is definitely the boss of her domain and the only way it would work is if the male submitted to her and gave her the respect she expects to get. The best otcome would be that the male wouldn't try to push the dominance issue and quivers to the female to show her that she's the dominant one in the relationship. Sometimes you'll come across the female that will kill the male no matter how much he tries to show her she's the boss. These females are the most aggressive fish I've seen out of the clownfish species. They can and will be ruthless. If you want to take the chance you can but make sure to watch them diligently because it only takes a split second for the female to kill the male. The best advice I can give anyone with a single female clown is to rearrange your tank so it throws her territory off and she has to reestablish it which causes a diversion for the male to get settled in. And definitely put the male in with the lights out AFTER rearranging the tank. This is no definite thing even if you do this though. Other suggestion, if you're not that attached to your female but love the maroons species, take your female back to the LFS and purchase a pair that's already bonded. Hope this helps.
 

small triggers

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i bought him at like half an inch,, he was in a 12g tank for a little over a year and a half and then in a 35g for about 6 months....
 

srfisher17

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Originally Posted by Nw2Salt08
http:///forum/post/3197344
When it comes to the female maroon clown she is definitely the boss of her domain and the only way it would work is if the male submitted to her and gave her the respect she expects to get. The best otcome would be that the male wouldn't try to push the dominance issue and quivers to the female to show her that she's the dominant one in the relationship. Sometimes you'll come across the female that will kill the male no matter how much he tries to show her she's the boss. These females are the most aggressive fish I've seen out of the clownfish species. They can and will be ruthless. If you want to take the chance you can but make sure to watch them diligently because it only takes a split second for the female to kill the male. The best advice I can give anyone with a single female clown is to rearrange your tank so it throws her territory off and she has to reestablish it which causes a diversion for the male to get settled in. And definitely put the male in with the lights out AFTER rearranging the tank. This is no definite thing even if you do this though. Other suggestion, if you're not that attached to your female but love the maroons species, take your female back to the LFS and purchase a pair that's already bonded. Hope this helps.

An excellent response, i type too slow to go into such detail. I've had at least one pair of maroons somewhere for 25+ years and i seldom use my experience as an answer; but I think the odds of successfully introducing another MC are about the same as the bears winning the Superbowl.
 

nw2salt08

Active Member
Originally Posted by srfisher17
http:///forum/post/3197830
An excellent response, i type too slow to go into such detail. I've had at least one pair of maroons somewhere for 25+ years and i seldom use my experience as an answer; but I think the odds of successfully introducing another MC are about the same as the bears winning the Superbowl.
Thanks. I haven't had my pair nearly as long as you but I have spent numerous hours researching and compiling information on this specific species. I agree with you though. I wouldn't chance it just because of the aggressiveness of the female but you never advance in any hobby without trying so people who have the opportunity and want to can give it a go be my guest. Maybe someone will find something different that works but for the mean time this is what I know. I bought my pair already bonded at the LFS.
 

srfisher17

Active Member
Originally Posted by Nw2Salt08
http:///forum/post/3197846
Thanks. I haven't had my pair nearly as long as you but I have spent numerous hours researching and compiling information on this specific species. I agree with you though. I wouldn't chance it just because of the aggressiveness of the female but you never advance in any hobby without trying so people who have the opportunity and want to can give it a go be my guest. Maybe someone will find something different that works but for the mean time this is what I know. I bought my pair already bonded at the LFS.

I sure haven't had the same pair for 25 years; but have always had at least one pair during that time. Prior to Hurricane Katrina, I was getting ready to try breeding them and had a few good pairs that looked promising. The pair I have now, I got about 4 yrs ago.
Yeah, very little in this hobby/addiction is set in stone. Someone, somewhere, has done everything with some success. I just don't like long odds---unless the pay-off is appropriately large. I also avoid the 1 -in-100 success story as a good reason to do something; and that happens a lot.
 

maroon2

Member
Something that worked for me is to place the female in a clear specimen container within the tank and introduce the male. Let the male have the run of the tank and let the female chill out in the container. This way they'll get used to each other w/o anyone getting hurt. Wait 24hrs and pay attention to how the female reacts when the male swims near by. For whatever reason its worked for me twice w/ maroons. I think that by taking away the females run of the tank it gives her time to get used to the male. Then release her and hope for the best.
 
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