"Monster Quest" on the History Channel. unbelievable.

pontius

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either I slept through this part in science class, or it was never taught, or something. but I'd find it almost unbelievable, if they didn't pass it off as something that actually happened and common knowledge.
if you've not watched this show "Monster Quest", it's a show where they go looking for evidence of otherwise mythical animals like Big Foot and Loch Ness Monster. anyway, I'm watching the episode on the "Russian Man/Ape" or whatever it is and they're talking about the chances that 2 related animals but with different DNA can mate and have offspring (like humans/chimps), and they're talking about mules, ligers, zebra/donkeys, etc etc.
then they start talking about transplants, and this comes up......
in the 60s or 70s, some surgeon removed the head off a brain-dead monkey and replaced it with the head of an otherwise normal monkey (I say "otherwise normal" as it was otherwise normal except for having it's head removed). they attached the healthy monkey's arteries, spinal chord, etc to the body of the brain-dead monkey and the new animal GAINED CONSCIOUSNESS. it breathed, ate, drank, looked at the people, and bit one of the worker's hand. they showed video of it and they were suctioning blood out of it's mouth and nose (though you could not see the neck area). they said it was real and did not pass it off as anything but real. they did not say how long the monkey lived (though I doubt it could've been long), but said the experimentation was stopped almost immediately due to questions of ethics.
anybody heard of such a thing as this? I have never imagined that something like a head transplant could actually take place. it showed the surgeon who did the transplant but I didn't get his name. anybody know who I'm talking about?
 

jakebtc

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highly doubtful since we are just now coming up with ideas to bypass damaged areas of spinal chord with a type of radio transmitting device to kind of go around bad spots and nerves and such I think its a big no way
 

pontius

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Originally Posted by jakebtc
highly doubtful since we are just now coming up with ideas to bypass damaged areas of spinal chord with a type of radio transmitting device to kind of go around bad spots and nerves and such I think its a big no way
actually, turns out that it IS true. here's the info on head transplants from wikipedia....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head_transplant
the doctor's name is Robert White. though after reading that I think they didn't actually reattach the spinal chord because it said the new animal would be a quadriplegic, but it said the monkey lived for "some time". just the fact that it was able to gain consciousness is astounding, imo.
 

jakebtc

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yeah the moving around and functioning part is what wasn't actually stated but had me thinkin no way, not that some things don't happen way before their time
 

teen

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i saw that episode as well. at first, i was thinking that hes just a mad professor. but when you think about it, its actually a really good idea. i mean, how many people are paralyzed every year and can only move from like there shoulders up? i mean, it would be sorta freaky to see your friend who used to be 5' 3" and skinny to like 6' 5" and jacked, but it would still be awesome to get a chance to actually live again.
and about the show, i think a lot of the people are just nobodies who are looking for there few minutes of fame. like the guy in alabama or something who set a trap for that skunk ape. he says he fell asleep and woke up to the thing in the garbage next to him. it stared into his eyes and he shot at it but missed and it ran away.
and those rods? definetly just things like birds and moths flying across the field of view of a camcorder/ camera. nothing more. there no creatures or animals from a different dimension.
but the show is pretty amussing. gives me something to watch.
 

dragonzim

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I saw that episode and wondered the same thing about why we never learned about that in science class. The guy was doing medical experiments for Stalin. The video that they showed certainly looked authentic. It showed the monkey looking around but I didnt see it eating, drinking or really moving at all.
 

pontius

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Originally Posted by DragonZim
I saw that episode and wondered the same thing about why we never learned about that in science class. The guy was doing medical experiments for Stalin. The video that they showed certainly looked authentic. It showed the monkey looking around but I didnt see it eating, drinking or really moving at all.
the one who did the monkey transplant was an American. the Russian who was working for Stalin was trying to cross humans with chimps. and the one on Wikipedia who was grafting dog heads onto other dogs was a Russian. it said one of those "2 headed dogs" lived for 29 days before the immune system broke down.
 

dragonzim

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Originally Posted by Pontius
the one who did the monkey transplant was an American. the Russian who was working for Stalin was trying to cross humans with chimps. and the one on Wikipedia who was grafting dog heads onto other dogs was a Russian. it said one of those "2 headed dogs" lived for 29 days before the immune system broke down.
Ahh, my bad. I didnt catch the whole episode...
 
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