Mudfilters

[ezjp]

I am looking for any input on people that are running mudfilters on there reef tanks or someone who has used one. I have a 37 gallon reef with some polyps and mushrooms along with a 20 gallon mudfilter. I have yet to have any problems with water quality. I would like to add some corals to the tank eventually. I have been going by the specs on the filter of not having to use a skimmer or add any types of chemicals. So far so good with the mushrooms and polyps. I would like to start adding corals to the reef. The mudfilter also is stand alone. I do not run any other type of filter. Any info would be appreciated.

 

[1journeyman]

Never used one, so can't help ya too much.
I will say, however, that I believe at least some of the info about mud filters is hype. I also think it's crazy o run a tank without a protein skimmer. A skimmer pulls material out of the water allowing you to export it... imho you can't beat that.

 

[ezjp]

Thanks for the reply. I guess using a skimmer would not hurt. Thanks again.

 

[danedodger]

Nah I don't think a skimmer would hurt anything either. On the other hand though doesn't the mudfilter have some kind of nutrient soaking capabilities too? I'm not too familiar with them either.

 

[ezjp]

I think the nutrients are absorbed with the caulepra plants. Here is an article about the Mud filter. Let me know what you think.
The EcoSystem™ Method.
A unique filtration method based on sound ecology.
The Ecosystem Filtration Method is based on the principles of ecology and is a natural filtration system that simulates the environment found in coral reefs. It does not require a Protein Skimmer or activated carbon to purify the water. It keeps the water well oxygenated through the photosynthesis of Caulerpa and entirely eliminates the need for air pumps. Caulerpa can also be harvested and used as fresh, natural food for fish. In addition, Caulerpa prevents the growth of undesired hair algae by competing for essential nutrients.
The EcoSystem Filtration Method uses the end products of fish metabolism and fixes them into plant tissue, therefore preventing the accumulation of harmful ammonia, nitrites and nitrates, and stabilizes the pH. By maintaining a clean environment, the EcoSystem Filtration Method keeps fish healthy and their colors vibrant. Furthermore, we have discovered through our research, that our filtration system helps prevent and even cures lateral line disease. See Freddy's Odyssey.
The Ecosystem Filtration System requires minimal maintenance, and is a cost-effective way for you to keep a flourishing tank of fish and inverts. We invite you to learn more about the Ecosystem Filtration Method.
A Breakthrough for Hobbyists
No More Guessing
No Protein Skimmer Required
No More Balancing of Chemicals
Reef and Fish Keeping Made Simple
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A Simple and Natural Approach to Aquarium Filtration
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You Can Do It

 

[danedodger]

Hmmmm I'll let someone more experienced in the hobby give a more educated opinion than mine but it sounds like the only real filtration in the thing is the caulerpa? I would think it would have to also rely to some degree on bacteria and so forth in the "mud" itself too which would have to be replaced periodically?
A macroalgae like that would take out some of the extra nutrients but I seriously doubt just how much. The ad does read like a lot of hype and snakeoil based on some truth. Beware miracle do it all in no time at all nothing could be simpler even a 2 yr old could keep the most demanding specimins with this type systems. I won't say that it's a worthless system in the least but do some researching before relying COMPLETELY on it.