Nationality/Heritage or Country?

darthtang aw

darthtang aw

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With the immigration debate heating up again I want to present a question.
What does a flag represent?
Before a flag's significance was only for the country.It represented the country to which you are a part of and hold allegiance towards. Now it has morphed into representing heritage.
Why and how?
I personally blame the south for starting this. The confederate flag was created to represent the armies of the south and the formation of their own government hoping to become a country. After they LOST the war, it has turned into a symbol to represent southern heritage. From that point on flags no longer represented a nation only.
This to me is the start of the heritage/nationality problem we have today.
discuss.
 
bionicarm

bionicarm

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I always thought a national flag and heritage were synonymous. That's how people of other nationalities define themseleves. Look at the Olympics. Every major nation in the world goes to that event, and their 'symbol' is their national flag. The 'one off' flags like the The Confederate flag, and the "Don't Tread On Me" flag were a representation of a specific time/event, and the people who used that flag to show their support for their cause. The 'heritage/nationality' problems we have today started WAY before these groups started waving their flags. The only reason they do wave them is to show their unity in their cause. It clearly identifies who that group is.
 
fishtaco

fishtaco

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
http:///forum/post/3266785
With the immigration debate heating up again I want to present a question.
What does a flag represent?
Before a flag's significance was only for the country.It represented the country to which you are a part of and hold allegiance towards. Now it has morphed into representing heritage.
Why and how?
I personally blame the south for starting this. The confederate flag was created to represent the armies of the south and the formation of their own government hoping to become a country. After they LOST the war, it has turned into a symbol to represent southern heritage. From that point on flags no longer represented a nation only.
This to me is the start of the heritage/nationality problem we have today.
discuss.
Good points Darth, I also would add that you sure don't see people displaying the flag on the proper holidays much anymore and it is sad.
Fishtaco
 
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dragonzim

Active Member
Originally Posted by Fishtaco
http:///forum/post/3266804
Good points Darth, I also would add that you sure don't see people displaying the flag on the proper holidays much anymore and it is sad.
Fishtaco
Not only do you not see it displayed on the proper holidays, but when you do see it displayed at all it is very often not displayed correctly.
 
stdreb27

stdreb27

Active Member
Originally Posted by DragonZim
http:///forum/post/3266816
Not only do you not see it displayed on the proper holidays, but when you do see it displayed at all it is very often not displayed correctly.
Or not displayed legally at all... I had a friend, (more of a right winger than I am) Anyway, when he was in the army, (in uniform) he went to an applebees and some moron of a decorator, had taken the american flag, hung it cockeyed (at a 45 degree angle), then stapled a giant picture of elvis in the middle.
Anyway, he called over the manager, and informed him that the flag was being illegally displayed. And asked for it to be taken down. The manager basically told him to kiss his ___. He couldn't take it down, it was from corporate. So he told the manager, well if you won't I will (by this time he's speaking loud enough where the whole restaurant knows what is going on.) So the manager says I'm going to call the cops, and he walks over and removes the flag from the wall. By this time, the police arrive, and he explains what happens. And they just let him go. With the flag properly folded under his arm. hehehe
 
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