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smileysun3

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My live sand has this greyish color under the top layer, if I look underneath the tank 3/4 of it is grey? On top is a continueous alge and brownish color? What is going on? Can I get rid of the problem with out removing sand? :help:
 

fishgeek01

Active Member
sounds to me that your sand is loaded up with detrius, how long has it been set up and what kind of cleaning schedule do you have, have you ever vacuumed your sand, or have any type of sand sifting invertebrates in your tank? What type of filters are you running? The algae growth and brown color (diatoms) are indicators of an underlying problem with nutrient build up. It sounds like to me that it is your sand causing the algae outbreak. Also i would try some type of macroalgae in a sump or fug. that will help to export a lot of your nutrients, the rest can be taken out with skimming and water changes.
 

dejaco

Member
Need to know - How big your system is and how much water flow are you running?
Turnover rate per hour. Try adjusting flow to get more flow accross sand bed!
 

granny

Member
I also have a live sand bed about 4-5 inches deep. The top is nice and white, but the underlying sand layer is dark grey. That is normal and you dont want to disturb more than the upper inch of your sand as the lower layer is where all your denitrification is taking place. That said, you do need to put in some extra effort withthe sand beds. They tend to 'stagnate' and you cant really vacuum them, so you need to rely on God's creatures to helpyou out. Sand sifting critters like Nassarius snails, a cucumber, a good sandsifting gobie all help tremendously. When you do your water changes(I do 20% every other week), stir up the top layer of the sand only. I use my hand and a very fine net to remove anything that may be sitting on the top of the sand. You also need to make sure you have adequate aeration in the bottom of your tank. Place a submersible pump a couple of inches off the bottom so that it does not blow the sand around, but moves the water just above it.
As far as the brown stuff, it is Cyano-and is tough to get rid of, but you can if you are consitant in
significant water changes with ro/di water.
not overfeeding,
having the proper creatures in your tank to keep sand stirred up
adequate filtration and aeration.
The Cyano can be peeled off the sand if it gets too thick. Do NOT let it get on your live rock even if you have to take a toothbrush to the rock and get it off. If bad enough, this stuff will cover your corals, and anything else in your tank.
If you keep after it, you will livk the problem in about 5-6 weeks. You may also find it helpful to add some PHosphate removing pads to your filter system. I keep these in my sump drawer and change them weekly since I did have a Cyano problem at one time.
Good Luck-Dont give up.
 
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smileysun3

Guest
thank you for all input, I skimmed off the top layer, and the sand was white undernearth, however my next step was to get a cucumber. I quess I need to do that sooner than I thought. I change all pads in pumps, and test water all the time, everything checks out right on the money. Thank God :cheer: I really enjoy this site, it has been very helpful because of people who have responded with their knowledge. I will been learning so much more because of it. Sincerely smileysun3
 
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