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mhayes462

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Came home today to my tank looking bad. 60% or more of my sps are Bright WHITE. My toadstool is pulled in along with my clavularia, Duncans, elegance, zoas, and one frogspawn. Xenias aren't pulsing and shriveled, and some zoas are melting away (which they have been, but even more today). Lots of my lps including my open brains, orange torch, scolys, favia, my other purple frogspawn, candy canes, all my acan frags and chalice are doing great and looking fine. Anemone is open and happy, clam is open as well. Mushrooms are good too. Here's some specs. 58g tank with 30g sump. I'm running a DIY led fixture with 56 LEDs on 3 channels running around 75-80% each. Around 55lbs rock, and been running since June. It was a transfer up from a 30g that had been running since Jan 2012. I vodka dose and use prodibio and have been since the 30g. I aim for a ulns and feed heavy. I dose kalk in my ato top off water. I dose zeovit products for the coral and feed the fish usually every day. My phosphates have just recently fallen to 0 on a Hanna checker. They used to run around .03-.06. I have started to run biopellets but have only been running for 4 days. I don't think they could have kicked in in that time as people say they take 4-6 weeks to get going. I did seed them with MB7. I ran a full battery of tests, here's the results:Alk 10.9, salifertCalc 450, salifertMag 1350, salifertPH 8.2 API, 8.1 ApexNitrates 0, salifertPo4 0, Hanna checkerNitrite 0, APIAmmonia 0, APIThis is really bumming me out. I had a nice zoa rock goin with lots of ultra zoas that are just melting. My only theory with what knowledge and little experience I do have is that the water is stripped of nutrients. Also, maybe because of that they have light shock from the water being clearer. I have turned all 3 dimmers down on my lights a little and fed more today. If the theory is they are starving, how can this be? I dose almost everything the zeovit people use and prodibio reef booster, reef roids, dt's phyto for my clam, and on top of that feed the fish. My encrusting montis seem to be impacted the most and they are below mid level and even next to the sand. Here's a pic of the tank before this happened. I'll try to get good pics tomorrow if anyone thinks that will be helpful. Any advice will be greatly appreciated.

Mike Hayes
 
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flower

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Okay...I'm just throwing some ideas out here..
....vodka dosing is very dangerous because it sucks the oxygen out of the tank. It also builds crazy bacteria. I just have to say that your tank is/was drop dead beautiful!
What kind of skimmer are you using? From what I have read on vodka dosing, you need a really powerful skimmer. If you want to continue doing the vodka dosing, maybe you could invest in an Aquaripure filter. I have one on each of my tanks. You dose the filter with vodka instead of the main tank. You get the same results, but it's not as dangerous as direct dosing.
Have you checked for stray voltage? I had a heater break once, and I thought the water change was the reason everything started going down hill...My corals always acted a little put off right after a good WC, but they were not bouncing back as usual. I discovered the broken heater and realized what had happened, it killed all the inverts and most of the coral. Stray voltage wouldn't be the same zap of a broken heater, but I would think it would have a slower, but similar result. The frags on the shelf are all happy, but the ones on the rocks are not (if I understand right what you posted)
Do you run carbon? Coral warfare could also play a role...it might also explain why only some of the corals are affected, since the released toxins would follow the water current. You mentioned mushrooms, I was told that mushrooms give off a toxin that affects SPS coral.
 
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mhayes462

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I'm 95% certain I know what happened. I use a product by zeovit called zeospur2, it actually manipulates the zoox mainly in sps corals. You can adjust the color of your sps with this product to lighten them up and brighten them. But you have to be careful. I dose 1.5ml every 2 weeks. The bottle sits right next to a bottle that looks the exact same but is called macroelements. You can probably see where I'm goin with this. I dosed 10ml of zeospur2 instead of macroelements. I've seen this before when I first started using the product. At first, you should use half the recommended dose to see how it does in your system. I did the full dose and the same thing happened before as what happened now only this time was much worse. It doesn't so much affect lps or softies or livestock. I did such a high dose that they did get a little mad and some lightened a little. My Duncan's are out again, as well as my frogspawn. My xenias are starting to pulse again and my toadstool is starting to put out some polyps again. It will take a couple of weeks, but the sps should come out of it. They are still putting out normal polyp extension.
Mike Hayes
 
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Originally Posted by mhayes462 http:///t/394874/need-help#post_3515165
I'm 95% certain I know what happened. I use a product by zeovit called zeospur2, it actually manipulates the zoox mainly in sps corals. You can adjust the color of your sps with this product to lighten them up and brighten them. But you have to be careful. I dose 1.5ml every 2 weeks. The bottle sits right next to a bottle that looks the exact same but is called macroelements. You can probably see where I'm goin with this. I dosed 10ml of zeospur2 instead of macroelements. I've seen this before when I first started using the product. At first, you should use half the recommended dose to see how it does in your system. I did the full dose and the same thing happened before as what happened now only this time was much worse. It doesn't so much affect lps or softies or livestock. I did such a high dose that they did get a little mad and some lightened a little. My Duncan's are out again, as well as my frogspawn. My xenias are starting to pulse again and my toadstool is starting to put out some polyps again. It will take a couple of weeks, but the sps should come out of it. They are still putting out normal polyp extension.
Mike Hayes
Time to get a big fat red magic marker, and make it so obvious you won't grab the wrong thing again.
 
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