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jwalters77

Member
I just bought a 55gal tank a week ago...I have and undergravel filter with 2 powerhead pumps...Right now I only have 4 pounds of live rock in the tank and 13lbs of lace rock. Last Friday I put in to Damsels and they seem to be doing fine all my tests are within range and I just added to turbo snails today...This is my first saltwater setup and I feel like there is something I am missing or not doing...I haven't done any water changes yet, I was going to do that next week...Would that damage the bacteria in the gravel...Sorry it was such a long question but I would appriecate any help or advice..
Thanks
Jake
 

nm reef

Active Member
First....welcome to the best board on the web.....second.....STOP
serious....STOP
now read any and all material you can find here and else where......under gravel filters are not the way to go........decide what you want from your tank........fish only?
fish only with live rock?
reef?
go slow....very slow and research each step and develope a plan to get where you want your tank to be
personally I'd go with a deep sand bed(live sand&regular sand) of approx 4-6 inches.......no UGF.......go with a skimmer and supplement with a hang on type mechanical filter(penguin/millinium)..minimum of 1-2 lbs lr per gal...........you can cycle with the damsels and lr but try to avoid any others until your cycle completes.........
serious welcome to the board and ask away.......but please be patient and plan carefully before you plunge into problems :eek:
 

twoods71

Active Member
If your tank is still in a cycle it was not a good idea to add the snails.
As for the water change, do not make one until the cycle is complete. If you make a water change while the tank is in a cycle it will only prolong the process.
Good luck to you and welcome to this board.
A good thing for you to do at this point would be to read some of the posts on this board and you will gain some excellent knowledge. Use the search option in the upper right for specific information.
Saltwater is great fun, enjoy.
 

marine qa

Member
Welcome to the board.
First of all I would recomend that you get a book or two on SW fishkeeping. Most of the people here have found that you can trust very little of what your LFS (local fish store) tells you. You can also get allot of knowledge reading this bb. Especially using the search feature for specific questions.
Second, have you heard about tank cycling. Put simply this is a process where your tank develops a biological filter to break down wastes. Until your tank has fully cycled it will be uninhabitable except by damsels and a few other hardy fish.
Your tank has not started to cycle yet. This cycle can take a month or longer. During this time your ammonia levels will raise then lower, then your nitrite levels will raise/lower, and finally your nitrate levels will raise. Your nitrate levels will not lower themselves, so this is when you do a water change. If you change your water before nitrates rise to approx. 40ppm you are only prolonging you cycle.
Third, most people would say to stay away from UGFs (under gravel filters). After a while they will stop working effectively and lead to high nitrates. You will see many posts about removing UGFs for LS (live sand). I wouldn't panic about it, but UGFs are old technology now replaced by a more natural use of LS and LR.
Good luck. Read allot, and don't do anything until you research the options.
While I was writing this post two other people responded with very similar advice, and I agree with everything they said.
[ June 19, 2001: Message edited by: Marine QA ]
 

otto13

Member
first off, man saltwater is an expensive hobby. i would love to be able to use an undergravel filter.....but it just doesnt cut the mustard in a saltwater. UNLESS you change water on a regular basis and no cheating.....
i just cant change water once a week, soooo..
i went to an aqua clear sponge filter. great....did better, but not good enough. too many water changes.....
then i went to a monster sump wet/dry trickle filter with a uv sterilizer. yeah... i have had some success.
however, alot of people on this website follow the newest trends.......
one of these trends is "a deep sand bed of 4-6 inches"
i jumped on the bandwagon too...
i have tons of sand and lots of sand sifting animals.... seems to work.....
we will see
good luck to you
if none of this makes sense to you and you feel like an idiot asking questions........
me too.....
email me and you wont have to worry about people ready your newbie stuff.......
it is all cool
lwallace@amtelco.com
[ June 20, 2001: Message edited by: otto13 ]
 
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