Obama to address your kids at school??

[nina&noah]

Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/3128602
Florida has some of the most controversial legislation (Elian Gonzales, Teri Schiavo, The 'Hanging Chad Incident' of 2000), and some of the most whacked-out governors (Jeb Bush is the lead whacko) that this country has ever seen.
Oh, okay....Just wanted to make sure that wasn't a generalization about Floridians in general.

I happen to think the whole controversy is ridiculous. It is a sad day in our country when the president addressing school children about education is considered a controversial topic.
The only think that bothers me about this whole thing is that the government spent money on ridiculous "curriculum guides" that most teachers will throw in the garbage!

 

[miaheatlvr]

Hey bionic... news flash.. No Im not joking!

Where do you live? Im from CT originally!
Man with the ETERNAL BLANK profile!

 

[tang master]

most of you on here are the typical liberal/democrats that would start a fricken anti-bush parade if he tried something like this. proves my point that you can do and say what ever you want as long as it lines up with the liberal democratic agenda. THIS IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL!!!

 

[oscardeuce]

Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/3128469
Obama is wanting to address schoolchildren nationwide to talk to them about the importance of education and staying in school. .

Um... I already had that talk with my kids. Why waste the kids and President's time to do what parents should have already done?

 

[oscardeuce]

Originally Posted by Tang Master
http:///forum/post/3128650
most of you on here are the typical liberal/democrats that would start a fricken anti-bush parade if he tried something like this. proves my point that you can do and say what ever you want as long as it lines up with the liberal democratic agenda. THIS IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL!!!

The federal Department of Education is to. Read the 10th Amendment.

 

[oscardeuce]

Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/3128602
Florida has some of the most controversial legislation (Elian Gonzales, Teri Schiavo, The 'Hanging Chad Incident' of 2000), and some of the most whacked-out governors (Jeb Bush is the lead whacko) that this country has ever seen.

Didn't the feds "reclaim" little Elian? I do not believe the State of Florida broke into that house with guns.

I see "Border Patrol" under the MP-5. Last I checked the border patrol was federal.
Try again Bionic

 

[nina&noah]

Originally Posted by Tang Master
http:///forum/post/3128650
most of you on here are the typical liberal/democrats that would start a fricken anti-bush parade if he tried something like this. proves my point that you can do and say what ever you want as long as it lines up with the liberal democratic agenda. THIS IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL!!!
I'm not a democrat, infact I don't agree with anything Obama has done so far. However, I don't understand what the big fuss is about. Why is Obama telling kids that education is important unconstitutional? I just don't get what the problem is.
I understand that it is a parent's job to have this conversation, but unfortunately many kids don't get that conversation. For the ones who do get the conversation, it doesn't hurt them to hear it again. Why is this such a problem? Maybe I am missing something!

 

[wattsupdoc]

Whatever he might have to say about education will go in one and out the other. It is IMO purely propoganda. I just would like to know what it is my son will be hearing EAXCTLY, and not have something crammed down my throat. What about these reading assignments? Whats that all about? Why is it liberals allways call conservatives wacko's, then go bight a finger off some senior citizen?

Who's the wack job there?

 

[scotts]

Originally Posted by Tang Master
http:///forum/post/3128650
most of you on here are the typical liberal/democrats that would start a fricken anti-bush parade if he tried something like this. proves my point that you can do and say what ever you want as long as it lines up with the liberal democratic agenda. THIS IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL!!!
Was it unconstitutional when Bush Sr, did it.....TWICE!
Obama's speech will not mark the first time a U.S. president has directly addressed the nation's schoolchildren. In 1989, President George H.W. Bush gave a 15-minute speech to students focusing on the evils of drug use, then another in October 1991 that urged students to study hard and stay away from drugs.
Or how about when Regan did it?
Republicans, though, defended the right of the president to address students. "Why is it political for the president of the United States to discuss education?" asked Newt Gingrich, who was then the House Republican whip. "It was done at a nonpolitical site and was beamed to a nonpolitical audience. . . . They wanted to reach the maximum audience with the maximum effect to improve education."
We also found that Ronald Reagan took questions from high school students at the White House in 1986, and the question-and-answer session was broadcast nationally.
Reagan urged the students to stay in school and say no to drugs, but he also discussed overtly political matters, such as national defense funding, nuclear disarmament and -- in suprising policy detail -- taxes. (Read Reagan's complete remarks.)

 

[deejeff442]

i really think if obama is just going to inspire students to do better in school nobody is going to have any problem with it.
problem is with obama lying so much latey hardly anyone trusts him anymore .thinking he has an alternative motive and i dont blame them.
hopefully he sticks to just education topics.
if not he is going to get hell.
but i feel he is going to keep it safe for now.
as for bush sr. he was as bad as carter.

 

[nina&noah]

Originally Posted by wattsupdoc
http:///forum/post/3128673
Whatever he might have to say about education will go in one and out the other. It is IMO purely propoganda. I just would like to know what it is my son will be hearing EAXCTLY, and not have something crammed down my throat. What about these reading assignments? Whats that all about? Why is it liberals allways call conservatives wacko's, then go bight a finger off some senior citizen?

Who's the wack job there?
I was a teacher, before my son was born. I asked one of my teacher friends about these so called assignments. She told me there are no reading assignments or homework. There are just "suggested questions" that teachers can use to follow the speech. They are a waste of paper, like "why does President Obama think education is important." Any teacher with have a brain could have come up with these follow up questions on their own. The questions are completely optional for the teachers to use. They do the same thing for Hispanic Heritage, Black History, Red Ribbon week etc...

 

[uneverno]

The president visiting a couple schools constitutes indoctrination?
Srsly?
If indoctrination is the issue, then perhaps private religious education ought to be abolished. %%

 

[uneverno]

The president visiting a couple schools constitutes indoctrination?
Srsly?
If indoctrination is the issue, then perhaps private religious education ought to be abolished. %%
Or is indocrination in that case ok?
In which case, let's stick with that flat earth theory.

 

[uneverno]

The president visiting a couple schools constitutes indoctrination?
Srsly?
If indoctrination is the issue, then perhaps private religious education ought to be abolished.
Or is indocrination in that case ok?
In which case, let's stick with that flat earth theory.

 

[stdreb27]

Originally Posted by deejeff442
http:///forum/post/3128595
i want to see how many students dont go to watch it.
It won't be that interesting. Most kids are going to say, "I don't have to do something related to school." awesome.
Originally Posted by Scotts
http:///forum/post/3128675
Was it unconstitutional when Bush Sr, did it.....TWICE!
Obama's speech will not mark the first time a U.S. president has directly addressed the nation's schoolchildren. In 1989, President George H.W. Bush gave a 15-minute speech to students focusing on the evils of drug use, then another in October 1991 that urged students to study hard and stay away from drugs.
Or how about when Regan did it?
Republicans, though, defended the right of the president to address students. "Why is it political for the president of the United States to discuss education?" asked Newt Gingrich, who was then the House Republican whip. "It was done at a nonpolitical site and was beamed to a nonpolitical audience. . . . They wanted to reach the maximum audience with the maximum effect to improve education."
We also found that Ronald Reagan took questions from high school students at the White House in 1986, and the question-and-answer session was broadcast nationally.
Reagan urged the students to stay in school and say no to drugs, but he also discussed overtly political matters, such as national defense funding, nuclear disarmament and -- in suprising policy detail -- taxes. (Read Reagan's complete remarks.)
There is a slight difference between addressing 4 schools then repeating it on cspan... And every school in the country.
And I don't recall the white houses, giving school assignments with those either...
It is very big brother.

 

[uneverno]

Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/3128870
It is very big brother.
As is Channel 1.
Consume and obey. Brought to you by Pepsico.
No indoctrination going on there.

 

[mantisman51]

The speech is about the need for healthcare reform. I listen to NPR frequently and yesterday and today they were even questioning the propriety of pushing a social agenda at children in school. I guess NPR is part of the "vast right-wing conspiracy".

 

[scotts]

Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/3128870
It won't be that interesting. Most kids are going to say, "I don't have to do something related to school." awesome.
There is a slight difference between addressing 4 schools then repeating it on cspan... And every school in the country.
And I don't recall the white houses, giving school assignments with those either...
It is very big brother.
Must be pretty big schools for Bush Sr. to be talking to millions of kids. This is from the Bush library website.
Thank you, Ms. Mostoller, and thanks for allowing me to visit your classroom to talk to you and all these students, and millions more in classrooms all across the country.

 

[tang master]

Originally Posted by Scotts
http:///forum/post/3128675
Was it unconstitutional when Bush Sr, did it.....TWICE!
Obama's speech will not mark the first time a U.S. president has directly addressed the nation's schoolchildren. In 1989, President George H.W. Bush gave a 15-minute speech to students focusing on the evils of drug use, then another in October 1991 that urged students to study hard and stay away from drugs.
Or how about when Regan did it?
Republicans, though, defended the right of the president to address students. "Why is it political for the president of the United States to discuss education?" asked Newt Gingrich, who was then the House Republican whip. "It was done at a nonpolitical site and was beamed to a nonpolitical audience. . . . They wanted to reach the maximum audience with the maximum effect to improve education."
We also found that Ronald Reagan took questions from high school students at the White House in 1986, and the question-and-answer session was broadcast nationally.
Reagan urged the students to stay in school and say no to drugs, but he also discussed overtly political matters, such as national defense funding, nuclear disarmament and -- in suprising policy detail -- taxes. (Read Reagan's complete remarks.)
It is one thing to address students for anti-drug rallying but another story when you have a socialist pig as obama addressing kids to push his socialist propaganda and health care reform beliefs on to the young generation and give them a fricken homework assignment on top of it (i never seen that from the white house before).
Originally Posted by uneverno
http:///forum/post/3128852
The president visiting a couple schools constitutes indoctrination?
Srsly?
If indoctrination is the issue, then perhaps private religious education ought to be abolished.
Or is indocrination in that case ok?
In which case, let's stick with that flat earth theory.

first off, religious education is private and constitutional. so if a parent chooses to put their children in a religious private school, then so be it. obviously you dont know that the presidents intentions isnt to just "visit" a few schools.
Originally Posted by oscardeuce
http:///forum/post/3128661
The federal Department of Education is to. Read the 10th Amendment.
oh yeah, i know. but then again most everything the government does these days is unconstitutional.lol.(which im in no way ok with).

 

[scotts]

Originally Posted by Tang Master
http:///forum/post/3128960
It is one thing to address students for anti-drug rallying but another story when you have a socialist pig as obama addressing kids to push his socialist propaganda and health care reform beliefs on to the young generation and give them a fricken homework assignment on top of it (i never seen that from the white house before).
OK now I get it. It is OK for a republican president, or two, to talk to the nations school children. Just NOT OK for a democratic president to do that. This is why I never join these typeof stupid discussions on this board. Truth and facts are very conviently ommitted.
Scotts out!