I have to say, for $170 with pump, the berlin classic is a very good skimmer( now that it's broken in, it took two weeks )There is also a company here in Eugene that I just found out about(after I had already purchased the berlin), called Top Fathom that makes a very good skimmer. I've seen them in action, and they work great! E-mail me if you want the website. Just my 2 cents,
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[ April 24, 2001: Message edited by: KDLBEM ]