Octopus?!?!

lionfish99

Member
I just saw the pictures the guy had of his octopus, what would i need to do to have one! I heard they were near impossible to take care of (even keep inside the tank) If anyone has some information on where to get one, how too keep one, and the the special requirments please tell me. Thanks.
 

fishfanny79

Member
Odd...my LFS had an octopus in a tank by itself the other day. When I asked why they had it, they said that they got it in shipping by accident and didn't know what they were going to do with it. They said they are 1000000% impossible to keep.
 

fishieness

Active Member
octopi are my favorite animal. The size of the tank would depend on the species. They would have to be in the tank by themself because they will eat anything you put in there. You would also have to make sure the lid is on extreamly secure. Ive seen them unscrew bottles, push up lids, you name it. I always watch all the specials on animal planet or discover....that is when they still had animal shows instead of american chopper and other biker-build-off things.... which are good, but octopi are much cooler. You can get one online. They probably would be very hard to take care of. As any unique animal, Id do a lot of reserch before you consider getting one.
 

nemo lover

Member
I remember reading a post a while back on this site about a person who couldn't figure out where/why his fish were disapearing. come to find out he had an octipus in a separate tank on the oppiste side of the room that was dipping in to the other tank at night. omg there so smart.
 

ophiura

Active Member
They are extremely smart. Not impossible, but definitely need someone dedicated to their special care. Not an impulse purchase but one that needs a lot of research and preparation.
 

nikolai

Member
DO NOT BUY OCTOPI! The survival rate into the LFS is less than 1%, and of that 1%, only 1% will live, and usually only a year or so. PLEASE DO NOT BUY THESE!
 

jon321

Member
im the one who has the little guy, i think the difficulty is exaggerated, im no beginner, but as long as you have 0 ammonia, 0 nitrite, and <50 nitrate i dont see why you wont be successful, and just like any other animal, you need to aquire a healthy specimen from the lfs.
i have mine in a 20g tank with 25lbs lr and 20lbs ls, it has no skimmer, but an eclipse hood/filter as this is solid tight and only needs some minor fixing (plastic wrap and duct tape) where the cord comes out.
they cannot be kept with many tankmates, this guy is 1/5" head and 5" arms and has eaten blue leg hermits, turbo snails, and nassarious snails, aswell as snapped at a blenny and cleaner shrimp. It seems to be fine with my large black brittle starfish tho.
octopus have a lifespan of 12-18 months from birth so they WONT live much more than a year, average seems to be about 10-12 months from purchase.
after only a month, mine has began spending most of his time out during the day and even begs for food at the front glass (as pictured) and eats frozen foods from your hand.
they certainly should ONLY be purchased by those who are experienced enough to keep 100% perfect water quality, ANY ammonia or nitrite and anything but stable salinity WILL kill them quickly, altho nitrate seems to be tolerated, as far as inverts go anyways.
if you would like a website with message board complete with octo experts which also sells tank raised octos and cuttlefish email me at jonathondoering@hotmail.com and i can hook you up.
disclaimer: DONT just go to ur lfs and buy an octo to throw into your community tank, you WILL fail, but if you have proven yourself by keeping fish and inverts and are willing to dedicate a tank (ive heard as low as 10g for a dwarf) and realize they only live for a year, i see no reason why you wont have a successful and enjoyable octopus experience!
hope that helps
Jon
 

benter

Member
Awesome animals...I agree that it is overexaggerated about the care , and even keeping them in the tank..And yes the reason that they die in a yr. to 18 months is because that's how long they live...period..!!I raised one for about 8 months in a40 g. cube..She was great..but she laid eggs and that was the rest of her life..she spent the last month or so taking care of her eggs..abd would not eat at all....just took care of the eggs..constantly brushing them and blowing water over them...she never even tried to escape, of course you have to feed them...if fed properly why would they try to escape??Most people are to worried about water parameters to feed them properly..she ate every day for 6 months or so..and as mentioned in a previous postTHEY WILL EAT EVERYTHING....Period..Mine ate a huge jeweled damsel..he was in the 40 for being bad when I put the octo in there..learned fast that size in the underwater world does not guarantee that you will win a fight...I say go for it...Just study....
 

speg

Active Member
Originally Posted by Benter
learned fast that size in the underwater world does not guarantee that you will win a fight...

You arent kidding! When watching 'Finding Nemo' go straight to the end credits and fast foward to the end of them and watch what happens!
 

teen

Active Member
octopus are possible to keep, they just have to be by them selves, in a very well sealed tank with sealed filters, and lots of "toys", rocks, and shells to keep their mind stimulated. most local fish stores wont even know what kind of octopus there selling u, theyll just make up a name. most of them will probablly be pygmy octopus, which need about 30-40 gallons, and others need a lot more than that. u will also need to support them with live food such as shrimp, snails, or crabs, so living near a shoreline helps. a low lighting source, or a red bulb is recomended also because they dont like long day hours, and they cant see red light. most ocopus will only live for about 6 months in captivity, so dont be suprised if u get one and it doesnt survive too long.
 

jon321

Member
Benter, how big did your octo get? I have mine in a 20g, but after doing more reading, I think I may setup an old 75g of mine and order a few boxes of lr so its cured in a month, some people have had their Bimac octos get to 7" head and 23" body and thats the type Im thinking I have..... :scared:
Jon
 

benter

Member
Yeah..she got quite large....in the 40 cube, she could cover from top to bottom...I will try and dig up a pic a little later for you...
 

kaotik

Member
That is awesome!!! Very nice picture!! Ive always wanted one but have always heard that they are very hard to keep and that they die early due to captivity. I did not know that 12 months was their natural livespan?? Im going to do some research and look into getting one. Does anyone recommend any good sites/books?
ps. thanks for the inspiration! :joy:
 

jon321

Member
thanks, i was under the impression that the dwarf species would be fine in 10-20g, but considering the potential size, that doesnt seem to be big enough at all, sure my little baby has far more room than he needs, but he also seems to be growing by the day!
thanks again!
Jon
 

fishnerd

Member
Originally Posted by nikolai
DO NOT BUY OCTOPI! The survival rate into the LFS is less than 1%, and of that 1%, only 1% will live, and usually only a year or so. PLEASE DO NOT BUY THESE!
What are you talking about? I see your findings are based on scientific research, and you're not just making up numbers.
BTW, Most octopi die of old age after 14 months. If an octopus dies after a year it was probably due to old age.
 
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