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darthtang aw

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Despite what constituents outside of Washington might think, members of Congress are underpaid, a House Legislative Branch appropriator suggested Thursday.
Virginia Democrat James P. Moran said he plans to highlight the injustice by introducing an amendment to the Legislative Branch bill during its full committee markup, and at floor consideration of the bill. Moran made the comments while the bill that funds member’s $174,000 salaries was being marked up in the Legislative Branch subcommittee.
“I think the American people should know that the members of Congress are underpaid,” Moran told CQ Roll Call. “I understand that it’s widely felt that they underperform, but the fact is that this is the board of directors for the largest economic entity in the world.”
The senior appropriator pointed out that some members have taken to living out of their offices to save money, while others have “small little apartment units” that make it impossible to spend the time they should with their families.
Most state legislatures provide their members with a per diem allowance, Moran argues, so the federal government should do the same.
The Legislative Branch appropriations bill introduced by Republicans on Wednesday aims to show the chamber’s commitment to austerity by holding spending at current levels. It would continue a freeze on lawmaker salaries that has been in place since 2010.
As for a dollar amount, Moran hasn’t yet thought that through. He said it would probably be consistent with what the federal government provides to other employees.
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Moran wants to highlight members’ living standards. (CQ Roll Call File Photo)
According to the Congressional Research Service, members began receiving a $6 per diem in 1789. The rate was eventually raised to $8 and remained there until 1856, when members began to receive annual salaries.
Moran assumes the amendment will not pass, admitting “this is wholly quixotic,” but he may bring it up on the House floor to garner attention.
“Our pay has been frozen for three years and we’re planning on freezing it a fourth year. … A lot of members can’t even afford to live decently in Washington,” he said.
Tamar Hallerman contributed to this report.
 

2quills

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Umm...if you can't find a way to survive on $174k a year then I don't want you in my congress anyway. They must not all feel this way. Some members have taken voluntary decreases.
 

aggiealum

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Why should they be paid at all? They are there to represent their constituents in Federal matters. Instead they spend most of their time pandering to lobbyist and figuring out ways to get re-elected. In Texas, several cities use the City Manager concept for running their respective cities. There are City Council members, but they are paid a $20 stipend for each meeting they attend. They also have term limits so that "new blood" can be infused into the council every few years. Even the mayors have term limits. But go to the State or Federal level, and once you're in, you're in until you decide to leave. Most of these politicians in Washington don't need the money anyways. They're either from some affluent family, or built a business that's made them millions before they got elected. Sorry, I have no sympathy for this "Moran" or any of the other Morans in Washington.
 

reefraff

Active Member
You are required to pull up stakes and move to DC as a city council member. They should get a REASONABLE office budget (as far as I know we are still paying 18K a month for Pelosis office) and a set salary where they know the rules going in. If you can't live on that don't run.
 

2quills

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You are required to pull up stakes and move to DC as a city council member. They should get a REASONABLE office budget (as far as I know we are still paying 18K a month for Pelosis office) and a set salary where they know the rules going in. If you can't live on that don't run.
I haven't been able to locate any info requiring them to move to Washington. Actually you are required to be a resident of the state you are representing but you don't actually have to live there. Some members it sounds like they simply travel in whenever congress is in session.
I seem to be unable to muster up any sympathy for this, Moran if he really did say these things. Especially when compensation for the average full time employee has been stagnant for a good deal longer than it has for members of congress who don't seem to be any more adapt at getting real bi partisan work done any better than we here could do it.
 

darthtang aw

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I haven't been able to locate any info requiring them to move to Washington. Actually you are required to be a resident of the state you are representing but you don't actually have to live there. Some members it sounds like they simply travel in whenever congress is in session.
I seem to be unable to muster up any sympathy for this, Moran if he really did say these things. Especially when compensation for the average full time employee has been stagnant for a good deal longer than it has for members of congress who don't seem to be any more adapt at getting real bi partisan work done any better than we here could do it.
I MIGHT be willing to see a pay increase IF they reduced the cost of their staff. some of these people have huge amounts of staff. The average house member has 14 staff members while senators have 34. The average pay for these individuals is 65,000 a year. Chief of staff makes 130,000.
 

reefraff

Active Member
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Originally Posted by 2Quills http:///t/397475/oh-boofnghoo#post_3542833
I haven't been able to locate any info requiring them to move to Washington. Actually you are required to be a resident of the state you are representing but you don't actually have to live there. Some members it sounds like they simply travel in whenever congress is in session.
I seem to be unable to muster up any sympathy for this, Moran if he really did say these things. Especially when compensation for the average full time employee has been stagnant for a good deal longer than it has for members of congress who don't seem to be any more adapt at getting real bi partisan work done any better than we here could do it.
You have to be in DC 4 days a week I think the average is. They can get some free travel back home but not all of it. I am not suggesting they deserve a raise. Simply there is a lot of costs associated with the job people don't think about.
 

2quills

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You have to be in DC 4 days a week I think the average is. They can get some free travel back home but not all of it. I am not suggesting they deserve a raise. Simply there is a lot of costs associated with the job people don't think about.
Oh I'm sure. I know a lot of that stuff adds up pretty quick. It just seems like they already get allowances that cover staff, office and travel expenses associated with the work. Up until the last few years they were getting cost of living increases every single year. I'm not sure how necassary that really is.
 
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