Old ?, new twist. What do you keep your temp at?

dburr

Active Member
Just read this in Marine fish and Reef 2003 annual.
The article is The fish friendly reef tank by Richard Harker.
Quote "A decade ago, the most common reef tank temperature was 75 deg Fahrenheit. While most hobbyists maintain reef tank temps in the mid to upper 70's, some have recently advocated higher temps, in some cases as high as 85 deg. The proponents of higher temps argue that because greater coral diversity is near the equator, we should strive to recreate similar conditions.
Unfortunately, this argument fails to take the reef tank's fish inhabitants into consideration. In the wild, fish can move about in search of a preferred environment. Fish are free to move from shallow to deeper, cooler areas of the reef. The small volume of a reef tank means there is very little temp difference from one part to another. Using thermal shuttleboxes, where fish are free to move into areas with water temp to their liking, studies suggest that many coral reef fish prefer temps in the 70s."
It goes on to say yellow tangs prefer 73 deg at noon at 66 at midnight.Chaetodon multicinctus prefers 75 deg but juveniels prefer 81.
Michael Paletta from his book The New Marine Aquarium writes "Generally speaking, the lower average temps are better for most tanks, Not only does cooler water hold more O2, but lower temps also result in slower metabolism. Fish tend to eat less, grow more slowly, and live longer."
What do you think? Mid to lower 70s or upper 70s to lower 80s?
I know my fish are imporant just as my corals. This is a study on why fish don't live as long in a tank than the wild.
Give your input.
 

dburr

Active Member
I keep mine at 79. When I first set up my tank 2 years ago, I had no heater for about 4 months. My tank was at 68- 73 degs. I had a clown and a damsel. I also had leathers and gargonians. I still have the corals in my tank. The temp never bothered them as far as I could tell.
 

chinnyr

Member
I've seen this question arise before.I keep mine at 77,and sometimes in the summer it will go up a degree or two.Everybody seems happy!
 

goldrush

Member
Yes this has been discussed before,and guess what,it will be again. As you can see,everyone claims success at many different levels.I think the information derived from this thread is: 1) avoid extremes 2) avoid rapid fluctuations . Like people,most living things will adjust over time and if all other parameters are within reason,temperature variations are not life threatening. If all of your life forms are from the same place and you can duplicate the temperature they are used to,wonderful. Usually that is not the case and we need to find a middle of the road that makes everyone comfortable. Like that famous old sage once said "your tank,your choice".
 

jonthefb

Active Member
82-84. i used to keep my tanks at 78-80 but after checking out Dr. Ron Shimek's website and his info that average temps on reefs around the world are at 82-85, i bumped mine up. since the uppage in temp, my corals have doubled in size. they open up larger during the day and are happier from what i can tell. my fish dont seem to mind and as long as its stable and not fluctuating a whole lot everythign should be fine!
good luck
jon
 
Jon-
Over what time span did you raise the temp? What I mean is did you raise it up slowly over say 2 weeks or did you just turn the heater up to the desired temp and let it heat up as is?
MCF
 

gatorcsm

Member
Just a little info from a friend down in the keys...
He goes fishing right outside of the preserve boundaries of the reefs down there in the lower keys (atlantic and gulf side) and uses a depth/fish finder that senses water temp. The probe is about 4 feet beneath the boat and depth in these areas are usually about 30-40 feet... From which you can sea the parts of the reefs that stick out of the water at low tide. Anyway, just to see what nature was like, I asked him to keep track of the temp differentials down there whenever he went out. He recollected that midday summer is usually at around hight 80s-mid 90s and night is in mid 80s.. Now (january) he's been keeping track, and found that days are around 79-82 and nights are mid 70s... Granted this is at surface... So i checked with some diver buddies and found this to be about right for the reefs they dive at as well.
Of course, a lot of the aquarium kept fish come from more equalatorial areas that have less fluctuations, but to support a case that there are as well fluctuations in that case: I'm in the Navy on a submarine, and we often travel quite far south... temperatures vary at depths far greater than reefs more than 5 degrees daily and over 10 throughout the season. The only place I've noticed a relatively constant temp is in the gulf stream..
Well, take it as you want.. Just thought I'd throw out some natural trends in the ocean... Seems like as long as you down go to extremes on either end, atleast not extremely quickly, you can handle a relatively large fluctuation daily...
 
My system stays at about 78 to 79 all the time. The heater almost never comes on but the chiller is still running intermittently even in January! I find that if I don't keep a window open in the room (a large room in my basement) that houses all the equipment it becomes unbearably hot in there. Maybe if I adjusted the Medusa to accomodate higher system temps the daggone chiller won't run constantly!
 

ddt

Member
I let my lights determine my temp. After a day of them on the temp was 83, so thats whats where I set the heaters.
 

dburr

Active Member
ok I hear alot about corals and how happy they are.
But, has anyone noticed their fish? Do they seem happier at the higher temps? This article says they will move faster at high temps at the cost of shorter lives.
Should we, as responsible aquarium hobbyists, also try to keep fish longer by lowering our temps. Is their a happy median? It states that fish prefer lower temps because they can move, corals can't move, but can we expect the same growth at lower temps? They will adjust to lower temps, right?
Thanks for the feed back so far, I may try to go from 79 to 76/75 to see how the fish and corals react. I will post the results if I do.
DBurr
 
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