out of control alge!!!!

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wildmike

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PLEASE HELP!!! I have a 55 gal tank. Its set up as a reef. The tank is almost a year old. In the past month I have had a very bad out break of a brown alge its like a mat. I can blow it off the rock very easly with my turkey baster. It grows on everything(sand included). I have 20+ full grown snails(turbos,margertias) and a TON of baby certh snails. They never really eat much of this stuff. My water tested out at PH 8.3, Amm. .016, nitrate 2.5, nitrite 0. What can I do to fix this problem!!!! I know my amm. is kinda high but it has always been right around that level. Is there a chemical I can get to stop this stuff or what??!?!?!?!!?
Thanks for the help!!!
Mike
 

kevin j

Member
There are lots of different things that can cause algae you have to usually do more then one thing to fix it. First how old is your lights on your tank as they age they are still bright but they change color from white to yellow. You said your tank has been up for a year and if your bulbs have never been changed you should start to change them out one at a time. Also your water quality is low (not tring to be mean) what kind of water do you use tap or r/o? Thirdly what kind of movement do you have in your tank if you dont have alot you could have dead spots which could be trapped with junk that isnt helping the matter. Lastly I would do a LARGE water change with rodi water local pet stores will have it or kmart has ro water. Chemicals will not fix the problem and maybe make it worse (speaking from experiance).
I hope this helps.
Kevin
 

kevin j

Member
Yes they do but be careful they have three different kinds of water distilled, spring, and I cannot remember what the third is called but if you read the label it says that one of them is ro
 
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wildmike

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I use RO/DI water. My lights are a little over a month old(VHO). I have a couple of power heads but I will add another one tonight. Thanks again
Mike
 

wolffam

Member
What is your phosphate level. A high level will promote algae growth. Just curious, but why is your amonia usually at that level?
 
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wildmike

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I am not sure what my phos level is. I have never been able to get me amm level down. I am not sure why I only feed a couple times a week. I never have any food sit on the bottom of my tank eather!!!
 

brinkdrum

Member
Walmart does carry the RO water just to varify. You do have to be careful as there are 3 types as stated before. But it says on the label of the "drinking water" processed by Reverse Osmosis. The others are distilled and spring, just make sure to get the "drinking water."
 

brinkdrum

Member
Just tested with my phosphate kit and the readings are 0.1 for the Drinking water. Not too bad! Just run some phos-zorb or get some culerpa in there and you'll be golden.
 

jonthefb

Active Member
wal mart or grocery stores also often have a manual fill device usually a culligan machine or other that allows you to fill up a container of your choice for like 30 cents a gallon....not too shabby!
good luck
jon
 
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thomas712

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Mike - did you put any of your homemade rock in yet?
And I am curious to as to what your current filtration is?
Didn't you just switch from CC to sand? How old is the sand bed now? Did you have any liverock at all with pods or worms in your system? Is your sandbed getting hard at all? How deep is it?
When was your last water change?
My thoughs thus far are;
Adding the new lights to a formally poorly lit and poorly filtered aquarium could give the bad algea all they need to feed on the nutrients in the water.
If you have added some of your homemade live rock you might not have cured it enough yet.
I'll hold off on the sandbed comments till you tell us more
Just guessing at this point
Thomas
 
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wildmike

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Thomas I have not put any of my diy rock in yet (high PH). I did change about a 2 months ago from CC to a DSB. I can see worms in there. My sand doesn't get hard. I did a water change about month ago. I think I will do another one today. I have two power heads for movement. I have a canister filter I just started back up and it has floss in it. No other fliters at this time. Should I run some carbon?? or somthing else?? I already have some culerpa in my tank. I have had it in there before the out break!! I did an water test this morning and here are the results
amm .018
nirite 0
nirate 0
cal 460
Thanks
Mike
 
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thomas712

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Sandbed sounds like it working fine, but still need to age.
I am willing to bet that it is your new lighting that has caused it.
For your consideration:
I would, limit the amount of time that your lights are on. I had a similar experience when I went from 80watts NO lighting on my 55 to 380 watts VHO. What I did was to turn the two 50/50 bulbs around so that the bright side was facing up for a month and lessend the photo period. It took a while (can't remember how long now) until the algea had finally subsided, it was terrable hair algea that I had to pull by hand and syphon as well as scrub the rocks clean.
I would also run carbon to try to absorb some of the organic matter that seems to be in your water so fill that canister up.
Chemi Pure is also a very high grade carbon with resins that would be good to use.
Make sure that you have enough water movment on the top of the water colum for oxygen exchange. If you can not point one of your powerheads up toward the surface then see if you can add a saddle filter like the penguin with the bio wheel.
Try to find the polyfilter by Bio Marine and place it in your canister filter as well, this more than anything will show you just how bad your water is, this filter really pulls the DOC's out! as well as phosphate. I have notice one drawback to extended use of polyfilter and that is that my leather corals tend to close up. These can cost 10 or 11 bucks at an LFS but can be found online much cheaper for the 4x8 size, and can be cut to any shape you need to fit, they would work well in your canister or a saddle filter.
If you can't find the polyfilter anywhere let me know and I will give you my email and let you know where to find them.
I believe that you are suffering from poor filtration as well as the affects of the new lights. Having added the cansiter filter, fill it with carbon and see if that helps over the next week or two.
Adding a protien skimmer would be a very good idea
Good luck
Thomas
 
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wildmike

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Thanks for the info Thomas!!! I have a Prizm skimmer. I am ordering a Rena xp3 for my tank tonight. I will also order some chem pure for it. i will get some poly fill for it too!!! Thanks for all the help!!! I did lose my xena :mad: so after this clears I am going to get some more!! Thanks again
mike
 
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