Over populated?

hoff0077

New Member
I have a 58 gallon Oceanic tank and in it I have about five pieces of coral and fish. The fish are: sailfin tang, yellow eyed tang, scopas tang, yellow wrasse, coral beauty angel, pink skunk clown, tomato clown, mandarin dragonet, coral banded shrimp, two flame scallops, white sebae anenome, a couple of feather dusters, a cleaner clam, several snail and crabs. I do water changes on the 1st and 15th of every month. Is that enough water changes and do I have to many things for a 58 gallon reef tank?
 

90reefkepr

Member
how many lbs of live rock do you have and how old is your tank
because chances are you should not have that mandarin dragonet
and also your tank is way over crowded
 

hoff0077

New Member
Dont know the weight of the rock, just that it fills up the back of the tank and why not the dragonet. Also how many fish should i take out?
 

ophiura

Active Member
IMO, the sailfin and the scopas are the overload. Even if there are no water quality issues...that 58 is still a 3 foot tank isn't it? IMO, the other fish alone would max it out, IMO.
Mandarins, unless they are eating prepared foods, tend to starve to death in young tanks without enough LR.
 

hoff0077

New Member
Weve had the mandarin ever since we got the tank? My paramiters are great all the time. A little high on nitrates(10) if i dont do my scheduled water changes and phospates around 1.0. No amonia or nitrites and my coral grows great. I'm wanting to get a 125 gallon.
 
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xnikki118x

Guest
I also think the sailfin and the scopas are the overload.
I do think that bio overload is a tricky thing, though. Some people will say that 4 fish in a 55-gallon is pushing it. A good friend of mine has quite a bit of fish in his 55, and it's an absolutely beautiful tank full of happy, healthy, well-fed fish with bright and thriving corals.
IMO, it's all in your filtration and water quality. If you have a good amount of filtration (say, something designed for 200 gallons on your tank) and supreme water quality (keep up with those changes and get rid of the phosphates/nitrates) then you can keep a larger amount of fish. Even with the good filtration though, I still feel the sailfin and the scopas are overload just because of the size they become and the room they need to swim. Perhaps you can get a pair of firefish or an orchid dottyback or a clown goby instead?
Since you've had your mandarin for so long, I'd like to think (and hope) that maybe you're lucky and got one to eat prepared foods. IMO, watch him closely when you feed and make sure he's gobbling up a nice amount. Also check to see that he grazes along the live rock, and if you can, take pictures of him often. If you notice him getting thinner, get him to someone who can better provide for him. If he's staying fat and healthy--which I hope he is now--then keep him and consider yourself blessed.
 

ophiura

Active Member
Well, if you are upgrading tanks that is very good...but you may not be happy if I say that in the 125, I think you would be at max stocking just moving your 58g inhabitants in :) Those tangs need lots of room to swim. YOu may be able to sneak a few smaller fish in, but avoid the temptation to add additional larger fish to the 125.
If possible, you may also wish to keep the 58 running until the 125 is mature, before switching the manadrin over - unless it eats prepared foods. How long has your 58 been running?
 
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