Overflow ????

sankysyuck

Member
Hey, I was wondering, are there any pros or cons about having a hang on overflow in comparisin to having a drilled overflow system? I'm setting up a 210 gallon fish only and am building my own wet/dry but I really don't want to drill my tank :scared: so I was thinking about the hang on one.
Any advice is much appreciated. Thanks
 

reefnut

Active Member
HUGE advantages to a drilled tank... mostly the potential for floods is greatly reduced.
 

sankysyuck

Member
Can anyone else explain more? I wouldn't have the slightest clue of how to drill it and I really don't want to hire a plumber to do it.
 

nytrillium

Member
A plumber... .hah.. Sorry for my sarcasm but most wouldnt have the first clue as to how you would go about drilling a glass tank.
If you want to have someone do it i would suggest calling your local glass shop and im sure they could do it for you. I doubt they would charge you too much to do it either.
 

chosen1608

Member
You can drill your own tank, but the bits are pretty expensive. You could also go to a glass shop and they should be able to do it. You need to know if the glass is tempered though b/c if it is you can't drill it. As for the differences btw drilled and HOB OF I can't really help.
 

squidd

Active Member
I take it you already purchased the tank un drilled...?
The best placement for an in tank overflow is to drill thru the bottom, this is done "before" the bottom is "tempered"...and the tank assembled...
At this point you would only be able to drill thru the sides or back...not quite as efficient, but still better than a HOB...
The biggest advantage to a drilled tank compared to HOB is the in tank overflow is ...well..."in" the tank..so all water is contained and will only go down the standpipe/overflow (unless it plugs and tank overflows the "top"..
With a HOB you have an inner and outer chamber and a transfer device (usually "U" tube, but can be part of chamber boxes)...Water flows from inner chamber to outer chamber thru transfer device and "then" down standpipe to sump...
It's the "extra" step (transfer device) that can cause problems, losing siphon and allowing the MT to overflow...
 

sankysyuck

Member
Yes, I bought it from a relative that wanted to get rid of it. What do you mean by "tempered"? And also, after it is drilled, you have to buy an overflow system correct?
 

nytrillium

Member
Definition of tempered glass found on google: "Treated glass that is strengthened by reheating it to just below the melting point and then suddenly cooling it. When shattered, it breaks into small pieces. Approximately five times stronger than standard annealed glass; is required as safety glazing in patio doors, entrance doors, side lights, and other hazardous locations. It cannot be recut after tempering."
It can not be drilled either. It is mainly used on the bottoms of tanks, so most likely the sides are standard glass and the bottom is tempered. Thats still ok in your case because you can drill the hold in the side glass and still put a bulkhead on it.
As for an overflow system, Yes you can buy overflow kits but If it was me, I woudl DIY it because I cant see spending money on sometning i could make myself. Its basically just a piece of Glass/acrylic that you silicone into the corner of your tank. It will have "teeth" cut in the top of it where water can "overflow". the hole you drill in the glass will be behind this piece of glass/acrylic and will drain to your sump. The advantage, as was stated above, is that the water level in your tank will never drop below the teeth in that piece of glass/plexi, and there are no syphons to worry about failing/starting.
I know there are many threads on here about DIY overflows. Here's one with the durso stand pipe too.... https://www.saltwaterfish.com/vb/show...light=overflow The durso is not necessary and i dont have an overflow right now so i dont have one, but people say that they are much quieter than just a pipe in the overflow.
 

sankysyuck

Member
Is there anyone who could talk me through exactly what to do? its a 210 tank so its 72"X 24" X 29". I'm sure I would need at least 2.
 

nytrillium

Member
I personally have never drilled glass. I know its not too hard as long as you do it very slowly and use alot of water (ie. garden hose). You must use a special glass cutting bit that you can buy online (Ebizzle, northern tool, mC master carr) or from a glass supplier. for that size tank, yes you should probably have at least 2 but i think 3 would probably be better. Maybe someone with a little more expertise on the subject can correct me.
As or the overflow boxes themselves they are pretty simple. just a few pieces of plexi with notches cut in the top and siliconed ito the tank. I would do 1 in each rear cornder and one in the center of the tank. So if you were looking down from the top of the tank it would look like the attached picture. You would have to drill 3 holes for 3 overflows.
 

sankysyuck

Member
Well actually I work at a pet shop in the fish room, but I have absolutely no idea on drilling or building an overflow. My boss does have the drill bit pieces, but I'm not sure that I trust him lol...
 

nytrillium

Member
Well my friend, this is the place to learn. I recently started and i have learned all i know now from everyone on this site. If Squid comes back in here he could probably help you more than I. Best of luck to you...
 
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