Overnight ulcers...he's rotting!

michelle l

Member
Hello
My Cortez Angel has got what looks like HLLD, only it is all over his body. I noticed a while back, up till yesterday, that he had some more pale spots in his skin developing, but I thought he may have been starting his color change. (He's still in juvenile coloration stage) He moves so fast that it was tough to get a good look at his skin, but what I saw didn't look like disease to me. This morning I got up and looked at him, and the pale spots have all turned to sores that look like HLLD, but they are all over his body. It seems like it got very bad almost overnight. Any idea what it might be?? He also seems thinner than he used to be. He still eats voraciously. I've had him about two months and he's in with a flame angel, two percula clowns, and three green chromis. There is also an emerald crab, two cleaner shrimp, a hermit crab, and a brittle star.
It looks like the example photo of the fish in the sticky thread that is suffering from bad water conditions, but my water perameters seem fine. Ammonia 0, Nitrite 0, Nitrate 0, PH 8.0, gravity 1.023. I don't have a test kit for any other elements in the water (phospate, etc), so those perameters are unknown.
I feed him angel formula, prime reef, seaweed selects (red), frozen brine with spirulina, and flake, and occasionally I will let him eat off of a chunk of fresh tilapia that I hold for him.
He's in a 125 gallon that is 4 months old, and has a wet/dry system with a built in protein skimmer that is rated for up to a 175 gallon (the skimmer isn't very good, I plan in investing in a better one). The return pump pumps 850 GPH. I also have an Emperor 400 for mechanical filtration, and two powerheads for circulation...on is an 850 GPH model and the other is a 350 GPH model, one in each upper corner of the tank.
I have a quarantine tank that I am going to move him to later today...is there anything that can be done for him? Are my other fish at risk?
 

beth

Administrator
Staff member
Is the flesh eroding or fading? If you can tell, try using a magnifying glass to get a good look at him.
Can you get a picture up of him? Have you looked at the picture of HLLE on the Diseased Fish Thread?
 

michelle l

Member
Hi Beth, sorry it took me so long to answer your post! I had went quite a while w/ no responses so I posted this again in the fish discussion area, and I hadn't checked back here since.
The Cortez is doing great. The day after I quarantined him, his "erosions" were almost gone as fast as they appeared. Then, he exploded with ich. I really think that the patches I saw on his skin that I thought were holes were really places that the cleaner shrimp had been vigorously cleaning ich parasites from. That's all I can think of. I treated the tank for ich and he looks fantastic now. He's been clear for 3 days. He had a day or so where I thought I was going to lose him, but luckily he pulled out of it.
Now my next question (sorry). I know that all of the fish remaining in the display tank are hosts for the ich, but my hospital tank is just too small to hold all of them. All of the fish in there seem to be clear w/ no signs of ich. If they remain clear for the time the Cortez is in quarantine, do they still have to be removed and quarantined as well? I have no idea where I'd put them all!
I have inverts, so treating the main tank isn't an option.
 

michelle l

Member
I had thought of that too....is it risky or difficult to do? And it will kill my live rock, correct? ( I don't have a lot...maybe 30 pounds. I could keep it in the 10 gal. with the inverts and what doesn't fit could go into a small rubbermaid tub.)
 
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