Porc Puffer Problem

nataliem

New Member
I have a problem feeding my porc puffer. I rescued him from the LFS about 6 months ago. He was very timid and small when I got him and had several bite marks on his fins and tail and was very white in colour. Since then he has fully recovered (except for eating habits). Our BIG problem is getting him to eat healthy foods because as of right now, all he will eat is Freeze Dried Krill. I've offered him everything I can possibly think of including fresh shrimps, scallops, a seafood medly, veggies, garlic etc. The only other food he MAY sometimes eat is Bloodworms (but usually he will just spit it out) It has gotten to the point where he recognizes the Krill container (i've even tried tricking him with pulling other food out of the Krill container but he still spits it out).
One thing I have noticed is two of our blue and white spotted crabs have totally vanished and our red and white shrimp has disapeared too. (no shells left behind). I started getting excited thinking that maybe just maybe our porc has finally decided to go hunting! (we have no other predators in the tank, however we recently added a cleaner shrimp which I don't think is capable of devouring the crabs!) Anyway, I was starting to think that my feeding problems were over (although I didn't have any proof).
However I was sadly mistaken, he has recently (within the past 4 days) stoped being able to bite at the freeze dried krill. When he sees me walk into the room after work he always gets really excited and shakes his tail ( kinda like a happy dog) and i'll go over and try to give him a mussel or a scallop ( which he turns his nose too) and then i'll wait and as a last resort give him the 1 or 2 of the krill that he desires. Now it seems as if he can't fully open his mouth. He will spit water out the top of the tank and when the food is lowered he will spit water at my hand but he seems to have problems eating it. He will lunge at the peices and cary it around in his mouth but he won't swallow. I was thinking it was his teeth but I researched the internet and it appears that porc's rarely have problems with their teeth. I aslo tried chopping up the krill into bitesize chunks which sometimes works and he will eat it but it is deffinately not normal.
I am wondering if anyone has any idea about what could be wrong, or any suggestions about what I could try? I was thinking that I might have to try to file his teeth down but I really don't want to try this unless I know for sure that's the problem.
also as a side note, I've noticed another funny behavour- When I turn the oxygen bubbles on he tends to go over and put his tail or fin directly into the bubbles almost like it feels good or something!
 

mckevinfang

Member
maybe it has something to do with the oxygen bubbles!! puffers should never be exposed to air it may get trapped in their respiratory system and can be lethal. try leaving it off and observe him for a couple days.
 

stdreb27

Active Member
Sounds to me like his beak has grown out to much. You have a picture of his mouth? and pm me your email address.
 

nataliem

New Member
Actually his mouth did look different than the other puffers when we bought him. It looks slanted on one side. I have worried about his teeth and mouth since we got him, but he never really babied it untill now.I'll see if I can get a pic of it tonight.
 

kjr_trig

Active Member
He has lockjaw i'm afraid...When I got my Porky years ago, the only thing he would eat was Freeze dried krill as well, when I told the LFS owner in Charleston (a person I trust completely) he said to get him off the "addiction" (which wasn't easy, but I did) as Puffers will get lockjaw and possibly blindness from eating it exclusively....I can't answer why other than I imagine it doesn't provide a balanced diet. Don't know either if there is any cure, you may post it in desease and treatment for Beth or Sep., but from the sounds of it thats what your up against.
 

slackjawed

Member
Originally Posted by NatalieM
http:///forum/post/2585699
I have a problem feeding my porc puffer. I rescued him from the LFS about 6 months ago. He was very timid and small when I got him and had several bite marks on his fins and tail and was very white in colour. Since then he has fully recovered (except for eating habits). Our BIG problem is getting him to eat healthy foods because as of right now, all he will eat is Freeze Dried Krill. I've offered him everything I can possibly think of including fresh shrimps, scallops, a seafood medly, veggies, garlic etc. The only other food he MAY sometimes eat is Bloodworms (but usually he will just spit it out) It has gotten to the point where he recognizes the Krill container (i've even tried tricking him with pulling other food out of the Krill container but he still spits it out).
One thing I have noticed is two of our blue and white spotted crabs have totally vanished and our red and white shrimp has disapeared too. (no shells left behind). I started getting excited thinking that maybe just maybe our porc has finally decided to go hunting! (we have no other predators in the tank, however we recently added a cleaner shrimp which I don't think is capable of devouring the crabs!) Anyway, I was starting to think that my feeding problems were over (although I didn't have any proof).
However I was sadly mistaken, he has recently (within the past 4 days) stoped being able to bite at the freeze dried krill. When he sees me walk into the room after work he always gets really excited and shakes his tail ( kinda like a happy dog) and i'll go over and try to give him a mussel or a scallop ( which he turns his nose too) and then i'll wait and as a last resort give him the 1 or 2 of the krill that he desires. Now it seems as if he can't fully open his mouth. He will spit water out the top of the tank and when the food is lowered he will spit water at my hand but he seems to have problems eating it. He will lunge at the peices and cary it around in his mouth but he won't swallow. I was thinking it was his teeth but I researched the internet and it appears that porc's rarely have problems with their teeth. I aslo tried chopping up the krill into bitesize chunks which sometimes works and he will eat it but it is deffinately not normal.
I am wondering if anyone has any idea about what could be wrong, or any suggestions about what I could try? I was thinking that I might have to try to file his teeth down but I really don't want to try this unless I know for sure that's the problem.
also as a side note, I've noticed another funny behavour- When I turn the oxygen bubbles on he tends to go over and put his tail or fin directly into the bubbles almost like it feels good or something!
feed live rosies,they grin them teeth down
but only in an emergency cuz they r oooooooooooooooo so bad for your phish just ask around but they will help with there teeth cuz veggies and frozen wont help w/ teeth
 

crashbandicoot

Active Member
It is very important to feed puffers shell fish (Shrimp muscles clams) basicaly anything with a shell . It helps to keep the beek worn down .
 
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usirchchris

Guest
Sorry to hear that...very sad.
He has lockjaw i'm afraid...When I got my Porky years ago, the only thing he would eat was Freeze dried krill as well, when I told the LFS owner in Charleston (a person I trust completely) he said to get him off the "addiction" (which wasn't easy, but I did) as Puffers will get lockjaw and possibly blindness from eating it exclusively....I can't answer why other than I imagine it doesn't provide a balanced diet. Don't know either if there is any cure, you may post it in desease and treatment for Beth or Sep., but from the sounds of it thats what your up against.
Just from the description this is the first thing that came to my mind as well. I have read a few articles describing this condition when feeding puffers krill exclusively...particularly the freeze dried variety. Always the chance that it is something else however. Best of luck to you and the Porc :(.
 
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